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material for making patterns
Does anybody have any ideas for materials to use as patterns for
stained glass? My problem is when I go to grind my pieces, I can't get them to stay stuck to the glass when they get wet. I've use super sticky tape, rubber cement and any kind of marker that I have tried has washed away as soon as water hits it. Any help will greatly appreciated. Thanks |
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"Moose" wrote in message oups.com... Does anybody have any ideas for materials to use as patterns for stained glass? My problem is when I go to grind my pieces, I can't get them to stay stuck to the glass when they get wet. I've use super sticky tape, rubber cement and any kind of marker that I have tried has washed away as soon as water hits it. Any help will greatly appreciated. Thanks How much water is your grinder slinging around? You don't need to flood the glass. There is a product called "Mark-Stay", comes in a little screw-top bottle. It's the consistency of axle grease, and pretty waxy. It will protect your Sharpie marks.....or, you can just use plain old Vaseline over the marks. But you'll have to wash the glass very well or the foil won't stick. You also could use paint pens...gold and silver work good and seem to be more water proof than markers. Best advice? cut the glass closer to finished pattern size, and knock off all the grinding. You should only have to use the grinder to put a matte finish on the edge of the piece so the foil sticks, not grind the piece to finish fit size. Practice on the cutting...... |
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Moose wrote: Does anybody have any ideas for materials to use as patterns for stained glass? My problem is when I go to grind my pieces, I can't get them to stay stuck to the glass when they get wet. I've use super sticky tape, rubber cement and any kind of marker that I have tried has washed away as soon as water hits it. Any help will greatly appreciated. Thanks If you take the time to learn how to trace cut, you won't need patterns of any kind. http://www.debrady.com/technical/articles.htm#cutting Dennis Brady DeBrady Glass - http://www.debrady.com Victorian Art Glass - http://www.victorianartglass.biz Glass Campus - http://www.glasscampus.com |
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"Moose" wrote in message oups.com... Does anybody have any ideas for materials to use as patterns for stained glass? My problem is when I go to grind my pieces, I can't get them to stay stuck to the glass when they get wet. I've use super sticky tape, rubber cement and any kind of marker that I have tried has washed away as soon as water hits it. Any help will greatly appreciated. Thanks You're spending way too much time at your grinder. You need to learn to cut accurately the first time, and just grind to take the sharpness off the edges so the foil will stick. I use a light table and sharpies, and have no trouble with the mark washing off. -- JK Sinrod www.SinrodStudios.com www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com |
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wrote: Here's two other options that our esteemed Mr. Brady also has on his website. Why he failed to mention them is unknown but I'm sure our speculators will come up with somthing. ================================ There's more than one way to do everything. "Template" and "Stencil" cutting methods work but "Trace" cutting is more efficient - providing you are willing to take the time to learn how. It's our practice to teach all methods. We've put several hundred students through our "Cutting Clinic" classes at various locals. I've not yet seen a single participant that didn't leave with the belief that "Trace" cutting would in future always be their preferred choice. http://www.glasscampus.com/VGAF/page...tingclinic.htm |
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Stencil cutting also includes cutting out templates, but instead of
scoring along the template, the pattern is drawn onto the glass using the template as a stencil. The cutting score is then made on the lines drawn onto the glass. A variation of this method is when the glass is put over the pattern and the pattern lines drawn on the glass. This is what I usually do using a paint pen. The ink will wash off sometimes and I reapply the paint when that happens. At my old house where I had a light table I did the cut on the trace thing and that works well when one can see through the glass well enough. Tomes |
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Tomes wrote: Stencil cutting also includes cutting out templates, but instead of scoring along the template, the pattern is drawn onto the glass using the template as a stencil. The cutting score is then made on the lines drawn onto the glass. A variation of this method is when the glass is put over the pattern and the pattern lines drawn on the glass. This is what I usually do using a paint pen. The ink will wash off sometimes and I reapply the paint when that happens. At my old house where I had a light table I did the cut on the trace thing and that works well when one can see through the glass well enough. Tomes Another alternative (not as efficient as trace cutting, but a lot more efficient than cutting out scraps of paper for templates) is using carbon paper to transfer the pattern onto the glass. For dark glass, white, orange and yellow carbon paper is available from art supply shops. |
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wrote in message oups.com... Another alternative (not as efficient as trace cutting, but a lot more efficient than cutting out scraps of paper for templates) is using carbon paper to transfer the pattern onto the glass. For dark glass, white, orange and yellow carbon paper is available from art supply shops. Now, that's just nucking futz! Putting slick carbon paper on top of slick glass and trying to hold a pattern still and trace it is abysmally stupid. |
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Moonraker wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Another alternative (not as efficient as trace cutting, but a lot more efficient than cutting out scraps of paper for templates) is using carbon paper to transfer the pattern onto the glass. For dark glass, white, orange and yellow carbon paper is available from art supply shops. Now, that's just nucking futz! Putting slick carbon paper on top of slick glass and trying to hold a pattern still and trace it is abysmally stupid. Nobody else has found it particularly difficult to do - and it sure beats dicking about snipping up scraps of paper to make templates. |
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