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OT Humour - Written & Spoken English
Howdy!
Why do y'all say it wrong, anyway? VeryBigTrouble-MakingGrin Of course it's that silent "f"--gets us every time! R/Sandy--quilting near the edge... ;-D On 5/6/07 5:10 PM, in article , "CATS" wrote: Things like dropped e's and changes in pronunciation are aften a reflection of the Americanisation of English. Just consider the way we say "lieutenant". Anyone with an English education (and that would include Aussies) would say lef-tenant, but Americans (and those influenced by their culture, probably through movies) would say loo-tenant. |
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OT Humour - Written & Spoken English
I'm with you, Cheryl! And while we're at it, who's the (pardon my language,
please! but it's a common word in American English now) dip**** who initiated the expression, "My bad." Can we hang that individual from the yardarm? -- Carolyn in The Old Pueblo If it ain't broke, you're not trying. --Red Green If it ain't broke, it ain't mine. --Carolyn McCarty If at first you don't succeed, switch to power tools. --Red Green If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer. --Carolyn McCarty "CATS" wrote in message ... Ah hah! The British (Norman/French) influence. Australia has it too, although these days sadly the shorter Americanised spellings seem to be taking over. A failing of our education system in my opinion. I cringe when I see what texting is doing to the written language though. I do believe that language is a dynamic force and is subject to constant change and innovation, t - i h8 txt words + h8 cing it in ltrs + emls cul8r (Aaahhhhhhhh!! runs screaming off in the distance!) -- Cheryl & the Cats in OZ o o o o o o ( Y ) ( Y ) and ( Y ) Boofhead Donut Rasputin http://community.webshots.com/user/witchofthewest catsatararatATyahooDOTcomDOTau "~KK in BC~" wrote in message news:Vqu%h.22194$KN6.12426@edtnps89... : If you can pronounce correctly every word in this poem, you : will be speaking English better than 90% of the native : English speakers in the world. After trying the verses, a : Frenchman said he'd prefer six months of hard labour to : reading six lines aloud. Try them yourself. : : : : : I find the biggest difference between the pronunciations of words come : between the USA and Canadian versions because of spelling for the most part. : : We add letters in some words like: honour, neighbour and colour for example. : : ~KK in BC~ : : |
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OT Humour - Written & Spoken English
Come the revolution . . . . . I have a lamp post picked out
with his/her name on it!! -- Cheryl & the Cats in OZ o o o o o o ( Y ) ( Y ) and ( Y ) Boofhead Donut Rasputin http://community.webshots.com/user/witchofthewest catsatararatATyahooDOTcomDOTau "Carolyn McCarty" wrote in message ... : I'm with you, Cheryl! And while we're at it, who's the (pardon my language, : please! but it's a common word in American English now) dip**** who : initiated the expression, "My bad." Can we hang that individual from the : yardarm? : : -- : Carolyn in The Old Pueblo : : If it ain't broke, you're not trying. --Red Green : If it ain't broke, it ain't mine. --Carolyn McCarty : : If at first you don't succeed, switch to power ools. --Red Green : If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger ammer. --Carolyn McCarty : : "CATS" wrote in message : ... : Ah hah! The British (Norman/French) influence. Australia : has it too, although these days sadly the shorter : Americanised spellings seem to be taking over. A failing of : our education system in my opinion. : : I cringe when I see what texting is doing to the written : language though. I do believe that language is a dynamic : force and is subject to constant change and innovation, : t - : : i h8 txt words + h8 cing it in ltrs + emls : cul8r : : (Aaahhhhhhhh!! runs screaming off in the distance!) : -- : : Cheryl & the Cats in OZ : o o o o o o : ( Y ) ( Y ) and ( Y ) : Boofhead Donut Rasputin : http://community.webshots.com/user/witchofthewest : catsatararatATyahooDOTcomDOTau : : : "~KK in BC~" wrote in message : news:Vqu%h.22194$KN6.12426@edtnps89... : : If you can pronounce correctly every word in this poem, : you : : will be speaking English better than 90% of the native : : English speakers in the world. After trying the verses, : a : : Frenchman said he'd prefer six months of hard labour to : : reading six lines aloud. Try them yourself. : : : : : : : : : : I find the biggest difference between the pronunciations : of words come : : between the USA and Canadian versions because of spelling : for the most part. : : : : We add letters in some words like: honour, neighbour and : colour for example. : : : : ~KK in BC~ : : : : : : : : |
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When I first heard that, Sally, years ago, I gaped in wonder!!
I love its quirkiness, too; along with my favourite surname: Featherstonehaugh - pronounced (for those who couldn't guess g) Fanshaw. .. In message , Sally Swindells writes And all the place names too that are pronounced completely differently to their spelling. This part of England is especially confusing for strangers - some of the pronunciations bear no resemblance to the spelling at all! My favourite has to be Happisborough in Norfolk - pronounced Hazebruh. -- Best Regards pat on the hill |
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OT Humour - Written & Spoken English
very, very near ...!
.. In message , Sandy Ellison writes Howdy! Why do y'all say it wrong, anyway? VeryBigTrouble-MakingGrin Of course it's that silent "f"--gets us every time! R/Sandy--quilting near the edge... ;-D -- Best Regards pat on the hill |
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It's those diphthongs again, Butterfly!
We have kept all of ours, and most of yours have disappeared. .. In message , Butterflywings writes Ahhhhhhhhh, the Midwest dialect I thought the same thing and it took me awhile to figure out "mould' when was the "u" added? Butterfly (taking a break from making my Design Wall-our 'painter' stopped by today just to see the 'progress'. What a neat guy : ) I have a good pic of him painting and when he is totally done with everything that needs doing we will give him a framed copy of it. DS said "there's somehting wrong with this pix..if he looks so happy--we must be paying him too much" vbg ) -- Best Regards pat on the hill |
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Oh! ouch. That was really painful, Cheryl.
(shudder). .. In message , CATS writes Ah hah! The British (Norman/French) influence. Australia has it too, although these days sadly the shorter Americanised spellings seem to be taking over. A failing of our education system in my opinion. I cringe when I see what texting is doing to the written language though. I do believe that language is a dynamic force and is subject to constant change and innovation, t - i h8 txt words + h8 cing it in ltrs + emls cul8r (Aaahhhhhhhh!! runs screaming off in the distance!) -- Best Regards pat on the hill |
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you what?
I can't even *read* text messages that aren't written properly -- Jessamy Queen of Chocolate Squishies (and Occasional Liquorice Ones) In The Netherlands Take out: _I love the colour_ to reply. www.geocities.com/jessamy_thompson http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jes...pson/my_photos ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ah hah! The British (Norman/French) influence. Australia has it too, although these days sadly the shorter Americanised spellings seem to be taking over. A failing of our education system in my opinion. I cringe when I see what texting is doing to the written language though. I do believe that language is a dynamic force and is subject to constant change and innovation, t - i h8 txt words + h8 cing it in ltrs + emls cul8r (Aaahhhhhhhh!! runs screaming off in the distance!) -- Cheryl & the Cats in OZ o o o o o o ( Y ) ( Y ) and ( Y ) Boofhead Donut Rasputin http://community.webshots.com/user/witchofthewest catsatararatATyahooDOTcomDOTau |
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"Polly Esther" wrote in message ... I enjoyed it too but tripped over mould. Never saw it spelled that way. Polly It's a British variant.......It's what happens to your favourite coloured banque cheques when that gator gits 'em wet while you're looking through a catalogue for a puppet theatre, plough parts, jewellery and pyjamas and there's no circulating draught to dry them out before they mould. Val.........who has 4 British channels on the telly |
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When I worked for a someone with a strong East London accent, I can
remember asking him to repeat an engineering term he had just used - it sounded like shvastoil. It was silver steel! I think he thought I was mad! We once took DS and his then South African girlfriend out for a meal and she was convinced she had found a fellow countryman in the waiter, but he was a New Zealander. My family tree on my maternal grandfather's side has been traced back to 1530 through the male line (Flude), all very straightforward and documented. However it stops there because of the difficulty with the spelling of the name - you can do a lot with Flude - Flood, Flydd, even Lloyd. Still I am quite happy with 1530 - it certainly brings history alive. -- Sally at the Seaside~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~uk http://community.webshots.com/user/sallyswin CATS wrote: And at least some of those might be traced back to local early dialects that have been preserved in pronunciation long after the standardisation of spelling. Spoken language has a far longer history than written language, and is probably more deeply entrenched in the local population. Accent has a lot to answer for. Just consider trying to listen to a conversation between a Yorkshireman and a Cockney . . . . to an American it would all sound "foreign" rofl. In America many of the spoken language differences/pronunciations relate to the ethnic mix of the early settlers in specific areas, or the effect of social isolation on pockets of population. The one English name that always had me bemused was the terribly upper crust name of "St John". How that ever became "Sinjun" in an environment that imposes such a stylised and demanding pronunciation system had me beat until I was told it was derived from the Norman/French pronunciation - hence the "slurring" of the Saint. But I have never heard it in relation to place names like "St John's Wood". I remember reading that Australia represented a language anomaly in that it represented a vast area with only minimal language variation. You can travel thousands of miles here and not hear a change of accent. Perhaps this is because we are so "young" and mass communication (at least across/within the continent) became the accepted norm relatively soon after European settlement. Perhaps it is a unifying national trait imposed by our early isolation from the rest of the world. Maybe it is because we were so heavily influenced by the first British settlers (although the same could be said of most of the US), or because of the minimal early impact of the spoken language of the indigenous aborigines on the early settlers (even though we now have some place names that would twist the tongues of even Welshmen, and which we have trouble determining the spelling of because the aborigines did not have written language lol). Who really knows? But the study of language and its influences is facinating. I have enjoyed reading all the responses. |
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