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First design using Glass Eye
"Michael" wrote in message oups.com... charlie wrote: think also about fold lines and try to break them up. **************** Are the fold lines places where sets of straight lines come closest to going through the entire design? If so, I've got lines going all the way through the designs right inside the outer borders. Is that a problem on a 20" x 45" window? Thank you for commenting, Charlie. Michael yes. a line that goes almost through the entire width or height is subject to folding on that line. makes it hard to flip over, but not so much if in a sturdy frame, although it will be a weak point without bar reinforcement. it also causes cracks in the pieces that bridge the fold lines, since that's where the panel is going to flex the most. |
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glassman wrote:
Very nice as is. How long did it take you to do it start to finish? Include the time to print it on multiple sheets and tape together. It would probably take me about 30 minutes to draw it out by hand, but I'm too old and lazy to take the time to learn the program. ****************** Thank you! I can't see how the software would be of much value to you, Glassman. My guess is that from conception to ready-to-go pattern is a very short turnaround for you. Not so for me. It took me somewhere between two and three hours, but that included coming up to speed on the software (not much problem there) and also a bunch of fiddling around with it, messing with the border, making the curves on the inside border, and changing the size of the border diamonds. My guess is that without the software I would have been messing with the design for several more hours. Michael |
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On Jul 24, 9:06 pm, "glassman" wrote:
"Michael" wrote in message oups.com... Hi everybody! Would appreciate your comments on this design, pro and con. I know I probably need to break the border up into smaller pieces. Other than that, what do you think? It is targeted for a transom-like window measuring around 20" x 44". If the link wraps, you might have to paste the thing together. The design is a conglomeration of ideas from the Glass Eye examples. Thank you, Michael Very nice as is. How long did it take you to do it start to finish? Include the time to print it on multiple sheets and tape together. It would probably take me about 30 minutes to draw it out by hand, but I'm too old and lazy to take the time to learn the program. -- JK Sinrodwww.SinrodStudios.comwww.MyConeyIslandMemori es.com I could draw it out in 25 minutes. |
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wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 24, 9:06 pm, "glassman" wrote: "Michael" wrote in message oups.com... Hi everybody! Would appreciate your comments on this design, pro and con. I know I probably need to break the border up into smaller pieces. Other than that, what do you think? It is targeted for a transom-like window measuring around 20" x 44". If the link wraps, you might have to paste the thing together. The design is a conglomeration of ideas from the Glass Eye examples. Thank you, Michael Very nice as is. How long did it take you to do it start to finish? Include the time to print it on multiple sheets and tape together. It would probably take me about 30 minutes to draw it out by hand, but I'm too old and lazy to take the time to learn the program. -- JK Sinrodwww.SinrodStudios.comwww.MyConeyIslandMemori es.com I could draw it out in 25 minutes. I can draw it with the program in 15min, but have used it alot, |
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First design using Glass Eye
On Jul 26, 9:28 am, "javahut" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 24, 9:06 pm, "glassman" wrote: "Michael" wrote in message roups.com... Hi everybody! Would appreciate your comments on this design, pro and con. I know I probably need to break the border up into smaller pieces. Other than that, what do you think? It is targeted for a transom-like window measuring around 20" x 44". If the link wraps, you might have to paste the thing together. The design is a conglomeration of ideas from the Glass Eye examples. Thank you, Michael Very nice as is. How long did it take you to do it start to finish? Include the time to print it on multiple sheets and tape together. It would probably take me about 30 minutes to draw it out by hand, but I'm too old and lazy to take the time to learn the program. -- JK Sinrodwww.SinrodStudios.comwww.MyConeyIslandMemori es.com I could draw it out in 25 minutes. I can draw it with the program in 15min, but have used it alot,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well I could draw it with pencil in 10 minutes but didn't want to sound like a bragger. |
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wrote in message ups.com... On Jul 26, 9:28 am, "javahut" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 24, 9:06 pm, "glassman" wrote: "Michael" wrote in message roups.com... Hi everybody! Would appreciate your comments on this design, pro and con. I know I probably need to break the border up into smaller pieces. Other than that, what do you think? It is targeted for a transom-like window measuring around 20" x 44". If the link wraps, you might have to paste the thing together. The design is a conglomeration of ideas from the Glass Eye examples. Thank you, Michael Very nice as is. How long did it take you to do it start to finish? Include the time to print it on multiple sheets and tape together. It would probably take me about 30 minutes to draw it out by hand, but I'm too old and lazy to take the time to learn the program. -- JK Sinrodwww.SinrodStudios.comwww.MyConeyIslandMemori es.com I could draw it out in 25 minutes. I can draw it with the program in 15min, but have used it alot,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well I could draw it with pencil in 10 minutes but didn't want to sound like a bragger. I could copy and paste it and print it out in about 45 seconds, flat. So what's the point? |
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" Moonraker" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... On Jul 26, 9:28 am, "javahut" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 24, 9:06 pm, "glassman" wrote: "Michael" wrote in message roups.com... Hi everybody! Would appreciate your comments on this design, pro and con. I know I probably need to break the border up into smaller pieces. Other than that, what do you think? It is targeted for a transom-like window measuring around 20" x 44". If the link wraps, you might have to paste the thing together. The design is a conglomeration of ideas from the Glass Eye examples. Thank you, Michael Very nice as is. How long did it take you to do it start to finish? Include the time to print it on multiple sheets and tape together. It would probably take me about 30 minutes to draw it out by hand, but I'm too old and lazy to take the time to learn the program. -- JK Sinrodwww.SinrodStudios.comwww.MyConeyIslandMemori es.com I could draw it out in 25 minutes. I can draw it with the program in 15min, but have used it alot,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well I could draw it with pencil in 10 minutes but didn't want to sound like a bragger. I could copy and paste it and print it out in about 45 seconds, flat. So what's the point? I thought we were playing "name that tune" with a glass pattern, I was bluffing, and Neo, you are bragging LOL seriously, the idea and concept behind designing with a computer is never draw anything twice, pull it up from the archives/library and use it, flip it, stretch it, extend it , repeat it, get the drift? SO in Michaels design, you draw one quarter of it, then flip, and because there are essentially so many repeated functions, that is "repeated" copy/ paste etc. As far as the design itself, Michael, I have no opinion as to likes or dislikes, it works, but I do have a question or two you could ask yourself when designing that may help you with any program you choose. Decide on the function of the window, If the idea of the design of that transom was to make it look shorter in height than what it is, to perhaps make a ceiling near it look not so tall, that does it, even with a border giving true window size, that design with all the pieces in the center of the window area, and so much clear glass around it, makes the window look shorter. When I looked at the pattern earlier I wondered why all the clear glass area? Why so much design packed together in the middle, open it up, use the room you have, and do not be afraid of those tails, your natural hinge lines will be gone if you open the design and let the vertical lines be minimized, unless your intent is to let more light thru a northern exposure window, then lots will come thru the clear. You see how much goes into the thought process when you are putting pretty windows in your house? You need to consider all variables as to light quality, where on the world it is located and how much light you want in or blocked and controlled by what you are designing. off my soapbox, back to the flame wars!! |
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"javahut" wrote in message ... I thought we were playing "name that tune" with a glass pattern, I was bluffing, and Neo, you are bragging LOL seriously, the idea and concept behind designing with a computer is never draw anything twice, pull it up from the archives/library and use it, flip it, stretch it, extend it , repeat it, get the drift? SO in Michaels design, you draw one quarter of it, then flip, and because there are essentially so many repeated functions, that is "repeated" copy/ paste etc. As far as the design itself, Michael, I have no opinion as to likes or dislikes, it works, but I do have a question or two you could ask yourself when designing that may help you with any program you choose. Decide on the function of the window, If the idea of the design of that transom was to make it look shorter in height than what it is, to perhaps make a ceiling near it look not so tall, that does it, even with a border giving true window size, that design with all the pieces in the center of the window area, and so much clear glass around it, makes the window look shorter. When I looked at the pattern earlier I wondered why all the clear glass area? Why so much design packed together in the middle, open it up, use the room you have, and do not be afraid of those tails, your natural hinge lines will be gone if you open the design and let the vertical lines be minimized, unless your intent is to let more light thru a northern exposure window, then lots will come thru the clear. You see how much goes into the thought process when you are putting pretty windows in your house? You need to consider all variables as to light quality, where on the world it is located and how much light you want in or blocked and controlled by what you are designing. off my soapbox, back to the flame wars!! Geez...did you learn all that in some on-line glass campus, or from your years as a basement bandit? LOL (Remember, I've been in yer basement.) |
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javahut wrote:
You see how much goes into the thought process when you are putting pretty windows in your house? ************* Thank you for the many comments. I had a few thoughts in mind when doing the design. I'm going opalescent because it will have more color to it at night, and I don't have to worry about sacrificing outside view during the day because it only looks up to the sky. Even if it's opalescent, if it's not backlit it can be hard to see lead lines in same-color glass, so I chose to put a lot of contrasting pieces against others but still maintain a color theme. There is also a neutrality of content that pleases me. We're heading back to southern Indiana tomorrow morning. I hope to have this window put together within a few days after returning. It might take significantly longer if I can't get the glass I need at the local Glass store. I'm also working on another transom design. Michael |
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"Michael" wrote in message oups.com... javahut wrote: You see how much goes into the thought process when you are putting pretty windows in your house? ************* Thank you for the many comments. I had a few thoughts in mind when doing the design. I'm going opalescent because it will have more color to it at night, and I don't have to worry about sacrificing outside view during the day because it only looks up to the sky. Even if it's opalescent, if it's not backlit it can be hard to see lead lines in same-color glass, so I chose to put a lot of contrasting pieces against others but still maintain a color theme. There is also a neutrality of content that pleases me. We're heading back to southern Indiana tomorrow morning. I hope to have this window put together within a few days after returning. It might take significantly longer if I can't get the glass I need at the local Glass store. I'm also working on another transom design. Michael then you have to start thinking about colors. dark red, dark green, blues, browns, etc will all look black at night. |
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