Kiln suggestion / recommendation ?

On Feb 25, 10:56 am, " Moonraker" wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message

...





Ah - don't you just love a story with a happy ending g.

Now - hands up all of those who actually believed this little charade.

I must be getting old & cynical - but this particular game
(also known as 'Hey - why don't I just put a post up on usenet asking
for suppliers of those widgets that we sell and then you can post a
plug for our business saying that we've got loads of them at excellent
prices, then I can compliment you on your (our!) website and then
everybody can see what a great company we are and we'll sell shedloads
of widgets - and nobody on usenet will realise that they've been
duped)....

Once again - shows that whoever wrote 'No publicity is bad publicity'
hadn't reckoned with Dennis' particular talents... - the Oscars were
_last_ night....

..or I could just be old & cynical.....

Adrian

ROTFLMAO...

Do you suppose that D-anus' mother swore off anal sex after he was born?

Your perennial failures appear to have affected your personality.

On Feb 25, 11:54*am, wrote:
On Feb 25, 10:20 am, Adrian wrote:





On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:35:26 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 24, 11:55 pm, Jman wrote:
On Feb 24, 8:49 am, wrote:

On Feb 22, 9:57 pm, Jman wrote:

Presently looking to purchase a Kiln so that I may do the following:

- Precious metal / Jewelery / PMC clay, etc...

- Enameling on Copper / Silver / Gold etc...

- Glass slumping and fusing (largest piece would be about the size of
a breakfast bowl)

I would prefer a kiln with a 'side opening / swinging door and with a
window or peep-hole if possible. *For convenience sake I would prefer
it to be 110 volt. *If that's not possible, 220v can be made
available.

Most of the kiln's use would be for slumping and enameling

Money is not an issue, but I don't think I could justify spending any
amount over 5k.

Any suggestions or recommendations would be helpful......

Cheers,

/FC

You'll find an excellent selection of kilns hehttp://www.vicartglass.com/products/...ts%20Kiln.html

You'll find considerably technical assistance hehttp://www.glasscampus.com/

Check out the video clips and tutorials - especially the "Kilnforming
Kindergarten".

Dennis Brady

DeBrady Glassworks -www.debrady.com
Victorian Art Glass - www. vicartglass.com
Glass Campus -www.glasscampus.com-Hidequotedtext -

- Show quoted text -

Wicked,....Thanks !

I remember being at your website once before...
I Found the information at the site really informative and it made
looking for a Kiln a crapload easier.

Having said that, I think I'm going to go with either the model

#1316 - 13" x 13" x 16" tall (inside), 240 volt / 15 amp

or the...

Model #9169 *2000F 16" wide x 9" x 9" tall 120V/19A

Can you PM me so I can get an ETA and final price with shipping, or do
I do that through the website ?
(I'll probably just get it drop shipped to my location....)

Cheers,

/FC

Both are excellent kilns with convenient front door loading.
Phone me (250) 382-9554
or email: sales@vicartglass
and I'll get you a delivered price quote.

Ah - don't you just love a story with a happy ending g.

Now - hands up all of those who actually believed this little charade.

I must be getting old & cynical - but this particular game
(also known as 'Hey - why don't I just put a post up on usenet asking
for suppliers of those widgets that we sell and then you can post a
plug for our business saying that we've got loads of them at excellent
prices, then I can compliment you on your (our!) website and then
everybody can see what a great company we are and we'll sell shedloads
of widgets - and nobody on usenet will realise that they've been
duped)....

Once again - shows that whoever wrote 'No publicity is bad publicity'
hadn't reckoned with Dennis' particular talents... - the Oscars were
_last_ night....

..or I could just be old & cynical.....

Adrian

This board isn't significant enough and doesn't have enough viewers to
bother posting ads. *If I want to advertise, I do it direct, do it
where there are more then 2 or 3 viewers, *and post something like
this:

For the best possible prices on Oxygen Generators (can be shipped
anywhere on earth) we're running a promotion special ending April 4,
2008http://www.vicartglass.com/products/unlimited%20oxygen/Vegas%20Expo%2....

I wonder if you fellas haven't figured out yet why this board has
become so infrequently visited it's degenerated into irrelevancy?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Really?
What do you call this?

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Subject: more Glass Campus tutorials
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A bunch of new tutorials have been posted along with a downloadable
pattern and instructions for making a stained glass "Fender
Stratocaster" guitar.
http://www.glasscampus.com/

On Feb 25, 12:03 pm, Chemo the Clown wrote:
On Feb 25, 11:54 am, wrote:



On Feb 25, 10:20 am, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:35:26 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 24, 11:55 pm, Jman wrote:
On Feb 24, 8:49 am, wrote:

On Feb 22, 9:57 pm, Jman wrote:

Presently looking to purchase a Kiln so that I may do the following:

- Precious metal / Jewelery / PMC clay, etc...

- Enameling on Copper / Silver / Gold etc...

- Glass slumping and fusing (largest piece would be about the size of
a breakfast bowl)

I would prefer a kiln with a 'side opening / swinging door and with a
window or peep-hole if possible. For convenience sake I would prefer
it to be 110 volt. If that's not possible, 220v can be made
available.

Most of the kiln's use would be for slumping and enameling

Money is not an issue, but I don't think I could justify spending any
amount over 5k.

Any suggestions or recommendations would be helpful......

Cheers,

/FC

You'll find an excellent selection of kilns hehttp://www.vicartglass.com/products/...ts%20Kiln.html

You'll find considerably technical assistance hehttp://www.glasscampus.com/

Check out the video clips and tutorials - especially the "Kilnforming
Kindergarten".

Dennis Brady

DeBrady Glassworks -www.debrady.com
Victorian Art Glass - www. vicartglass.com
Glass Campus -www.glasscampus.com-Hidequotedtext-

- Show quoted text -

Wicked,....Thanks !

I remember being at your website once before...
I Found the information at the site really informative and it made
looking for a Kiln a crapload easier.

Having said that, I think I'm going to go with either the model

#1316 - 13" x 13" x 16" tall (inside), 240 volt / 15 amp

or the...

Model #9169 2000F 16" wide x 9" x 9" tall 120V/19A

Can you PM me so I can get an ETA and final price with shipping, or do
I do that through the website ?
(I'll probably just get it drop shipped to my location....)

Cheers,

/FC

Both are excellent kilns with convenient front door loading.
Phone me (250) 382-9554
or email: sales@vicartglass
and I'll get you a delivered price quote.

Ah - don't you just love a story with a happy ending g.

Now - hands up all of those who actually believed this little charade.

I must be getting old & cynical - but this particular game
(also known as 'Hey - why don't I just put a post up on usenet asking
for suppliers of those widgets that we sell and then you can post a
plug for our business saying that we've got loads of them at excellent
prices, then I can compliment you on your (our!) website and then
everybody can see what a great company we are and we'll sell shedloads
of widgets - and nobody on usenet will realise that they've been
duped)....

Once again - shows that whoever wrote 'No publicity is bad publicity'
hadn't reckoned with Dennis' particular talents... - the Oscars were
_last_ night....

..or I could just be old & cynical.....

Adrian

This board isn't significant enough and doesn't have enough viewers to
bother posting ads. If I want to advertise, I do it direct, do it
where there are more then 2 or 3 viewers, and post something like
this:

For the best possible prices on Oxygen Generators (can be shipped
anywhere on earth) we're running a promotion special ending April 4,
2008http://www.vicartglass.com/products/unlimited%20oxygen/Vegas%20Expo%2...

I wonder if you fellas haven't figured out yet why this board has
become so infrequently visited it's degenerated into irrelevancy?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Really?
What do you call this?

View profile
More options Jan 21, 8:36 am

Newsgroups: rec.crafts.glass
From:
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:36:55 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Jan 21 2008 8:36 am
Subject: more Glass Campus tutorials
Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show
original | Report this message | Find messages by this author
A bunch of new tutorials have been posted along with a downloadable
pattern and instructions for making a stained glass "Fender
Stratocaster" guitar.
http://www.glasscampus.com/

How 'bout this......

If you want to teach your self how to fuse and slump glass, or you're
teaching it and want instructional handouts for your students,
download this:

http://www.glasscampus.com/tutorials...ndergarten.pdf

Keep watching for more tutorials and more video clips and more glass
projects posted on Glass Campus. We can not only teach you how to make
beautiful things with glass, we can teach you how to make a living
selling them.

I find the information from Brad Waker as well as Boyce Lundstrom to
be deemed more reliable and accurate. However....much of the
information you provide in "your" tutorials sure has a close
resemblence to other published works...some of it is almost verbatim.
But I digress....

wrote:
On Feb 25, 12:03 pm, Chemo the Clown wrote:
On Feb 25, 11:54 am,

How 'bout this......

If you want to teach your self how to fuse and slump glass, or you're
teaching it and want instructional handouts for your students,
download this:

http://www.glasscampus.com/tutorials...ndergarten.pdf

Keep watching for more tutorials and more video clips and more glass
projects posted on Glass Campus. We can not only teach you how to make
beautiful things with glass, we can teach you how to make a living
selling them.

On Feb 25, 4:40 pm, Chemo the Clown wrote:
I find the information from Brad Waker as well as Boyce Lundstrom to
be deemed more reliable and accurate. However....much of the
information you provide in "your" tutorials sure has a close
resemblence to other published works...some of it is almost verbatim.
But I digress....

wrote:
On Feb 25, 12:03 pm, Chemo the Clown wrote:
On Feb 25, 11:54 am,

How 'bout this......

If you want to teach your self how to fuse and slump glass, or you're
teaching it and want instructional handouts for your students,
download this:

http://www.glasscampus.com/tutorials...ndergarten.pdf

Keep watching for more tutorials and more video clips and more glass
projects posted on Glass Campus. We can not only teach you how to make
beautiful things with glass, we can teach you how to make a living
selling them.

While you digress, I progress.
There'll be a dozen or so new tutorials and videos introduced each
month.

There's already a great tutorial on how to repair kilns:
http://www.glasscampus.com/tutorials...ir%20Guide.pdf

There'll be one soon on how to build them:

Did I mention that all the "Master Artisan" stuff will be on display
and can be demo'd at Las Vegas GlassCraft Expo?
http://www.vicartglass.com/products/masterartisan.htm

Let me know when you tire of your childish game. I can keep this up
for days with hundreds of links. Perhaps you should just fall back on
the tawdry trash talk from your compadre from Gator**** Georgia?

On Feb 25, 11:20*am, Adrian wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:35:26 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 24, 11:55 pm, Jman wrote:
On Feb 24, 8:49 am, wrote:

On Feb 22, 9:57 pm, Jman wrote:

Presently looking to purchase a Kiln so that I may do the following:

- Precious metal / Jewelery / PMC clay, etc...

- Enameling on Copper / Silver / Gold etc...

- Glass slumping and fusing (largest piece would be about the size of
a breakfast bowl)

I would prefer a kiln with a 'side opening / swinging door and with a
window or peep-hole if possible. *For convenience sake I would prefer
it to be 110 volt. *If that's not possible, 220v can be made
available.

Most of the kiln's use would be for slumping and enameling

Money is not an issue, but I don't think I could justify spending any
amount over 5k.

Any suggestions or recommendations would be helpful......

Cheers,

/FC

You'll find an excellent selection of kilns hehttp://www.vicartglass.com/products/...ts%20Kiln.html

You'll find considerably technical assistance hehttp://www.glasscampus.com/

Check out the video clips and tutorials - especially the "Kilnforming
Kindergarten".

Dennis Brady

DeBrady Glassworks -www.debrady.com
Victorian Art Glass - www. vicartglass.com
Glass Campus -www.glasscampus.com-Hidequoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wicked,....Thanks !

I remember being at your website once before...
I Found the information at the site really informative and it made
looking for a Kiln a crapload easier.

Having said that, I think I'm going to go with either the model

#1316 - 13" x 13" x 16" tall (inside), 240 volt / 15 amp

or the...

Model #9169 *2000F 16" wide x 9" x 9" tall 120V/19A

Can you PM me so I can get an ETA and final price with shipping, or do
I do that through the website ?
(I'll probably just get it drop shipped to my location....)

Cheers,

/FC

Both are excellent kilns with convenient front door loading.
Phone me (250) 382-9554
or email: sales@vicartglass
and I'll get you a delivered price quote.

Ah - don't you just love a story with a happy ending g.

Now - hands up all of those who actually believed this little charade.

I must be getting old & cynical - but this particular game
(also known as 'Hey - why don't I just put a post up on usenet asking
for suppliers of those widgets that we sell and then you can post a
plug for our business saying that we've got loads of them at excellent
prices, then I can compliment you on your (our!) website and then
everybody can see what a great company we are and we'll sell shedloads
of widgets - and nobody on usenet will realise that they've been
duped)....

Once again - shows that whoever wrote 'No publicity is bad publicity'
hadn't reckoned with Dennis' particular talents... - the Oscars were
_last_ night....

..or I could just be old & cynical.....

Adrian- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

**** you assmunch.....
I hope you're old, cause' in that case you'll die soon. Thank the
Gods for that...
****ing waste of skin.... Just goes to prove my point about posting
here "hoping" that
someone can help with a simple question.
I hope your kids get into an accident and lose their ****ing limbs and
you end up
wiping their asses in your golden years you piece of ****.

/FC

On Feb 25, 11:56*am, " Moonraker" wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message

...







Ah - don't you just love a story with a happy ending g.

Now - hands up all of those who actually believed this little charade.

I must be getting old & cynical - but this particular game
(also known as 'Hey - why don't I just put a post up on usenet asking
for suppliers of those widgets that we sell and then you can post a
plug for our business saying that we've got loads of them at excellent
prices, then I can compliment you on your (our!) website and then
everybody can see what a great company we are and we'll sell shedloads
of widgets - and nobody on usenet will realise that they've been
duped)....

Once again - shows that whoever wrote 'No publicity is bad publicity'
hadn't reckoned with Dennis' particular talents... - the Oscars were
_last_ night....

..or I could just be old & cynical.....

Adrian

ROTFLMAO...

Do you suppose that D-anus' mother swore off anal sex after he was born?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah you're one to talk you ****ing inbred POS. I heard your old man
had to CUM in her shoe
and let the flies get her pregnant ! If I want any lip outta you,
I'll jingle my ****ing zipper and tell
you what a pretty mouth you have.

**** YOU and your ENTIRE family......

/FC

Funny that none of the recognized authorities in kilnforming will let you
post on their forums because of the misinformation and crooked business
practices you propagate.

Even the beadworking forums have rid themselves of you.

Why don't you and your "J-man" go back to your NAMBLA meeting and resume
your father-son incestous activities?

On Feb 25, 9:35*am, wrote:
On Feb 24, 11:55 pm, Jman wrote:





On Feb 24, 8:49 am, wrote:

On Feb 22, 9:57 pm, Jman wrote:

Presently looking to purchase a Kiln so that I may do the following:

- Precious metal / Jewelery / PMC clay, etc...

- Enameling on Copper / Silver / Gold etc...

- Glass slumping and fusing (largest piece would be about the size of
a breakfast bowl)

I would prefer a kiln with a 'side opening / swinging door and with a
window or peep-hole if possible. *For convenience sake I would prefer
it to be 110 volt. *If that's not possible, 220v can be made
available.

Most of the kiln's use would be for slumping and enameling

Money is not an issue, but I don't think I could justify spending any
amount over 5k.

Any suggestions or recommendations would be helpful......

Cheers,

/FC

You'll find an excellent selection of kilns hehttp://www.vicartglass.com/products/...ts%20Kiln.html

You'll find considerably technical assistance hehttp://www.glasscampus.com/

Check out the video clips and tutorials - especially the "Kilnforming
Kindergarten".

Dennis Brady

DeBrady Glassworks -www.debrady.com
Victorian Art Glass - www. vicartglass.com
Glass Campus -www.glasscampus.com-Hidequoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wicked,....Thanks !

I remember being at your website once before...
I Found the information at the site really informative and it made
looking for a Kiln a crapload easier.

Having said that, I think I'm going to go with either the model

#1316 - 13" x 13" x 16" tall (inside), 240 volt / 15 amp

or the...

Model #9169 *2000F 16" wide x 9" x 9" tall 120V/19A

Can you PM me so I can get an ETA and final price with shipping, or do
I do that through the website ?
(I'll probably just get it drop shipped to my location....)

Cheers,

/FC

Both are excellent kilns with convenient front door loading.
Phone me (250) 382-9554
or email: sales@vicartglass
and I'll get you a delivered price quote.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

THANK-YOU,

I will be in touch in the near future....

/FC

On Feb 25, 6:30 pm, " Moonraker" wrote:
Funny that none of the recognized authorities in kilnforming will let you
post on their forums because of the misinformation and crooked business
practices you propagate.

Even the beadworking forums have rid themselves of you.

Why don't you and your "J-man" go back to your NAMBLA meeting and resume
your father-son incestous activities?

In amongst all this collection of oddities is the oddest of all -
there are still some too stupid to understand why this board has died.