Photographing your beads

No, not at all. I think there's a world of difference between asking here
or in other forums and asking via email.

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net

Kandice Seeber wrote:
And of course, asking on a forum like this one is totally different from
asking via email.

Thank you. I was beginning to think I'd done something
terribly wrong and that I had misjudged this group.

Lisa

smiling...

Actually I had several photos today outside that needed no other work. It
was a miracle.

--
Starlia Klopman
www.klopmanstudios.com


"Kandice Seeber" wrote in message
...
Yeah. Good luck with that. LOL!

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net

but I'm a snot and want perfect photos from only
one shot and no monkeying. (I know it's not always that way.)

Me too but white bread can be good with a bit of Nutella schmeared on it.

(I finally bought some of that stuff - oh my gawd! It's wonderful!!!)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Kathy N-V" wrote in message
.com...
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:25:55 -0400, Carla wrote
(in message . net):

Kathy N-V wrote:
I'm glad that so many of us have found great partners - Shirley and
Jerri pop to mind instantly. (I don't have a lot of complaints,
either) I'll send happiness and matching up vibes to those who
haven't yet found the right partner.
^^^^^^^

Um...mind if I change that to "partner(s)"?

Just wanna slip in an acknowledgement to my bf, too. Another great guy
so I'm doubly happy. Seven years together next week!

No problem at all. I hadn't considered that possibility, because I
am a totally white bread kinda person. :-)

Kathy N-V



---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 6/30/2004

Well, I still help a lot of people. Look at my website and all the tips
and
tricks posted there. I post in forums to help out as well - all the time.
Maybe I should stop?

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net

Egads! Nooooooooooooooooooooooo, please don't stop.

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:37:10 -0400, "JoAnn Paules"
wrote:

Me too but white bread can be good with a bit of Nutella schmeared on it.

(I finally bought some of that stuff - oh my gawd! It's wonderful!!!)

I am a complete Nutella freak! Thanks for reminding me to get some for
my trip next week. LOL!

Tinkster

I can't believe I've waited so long to try this stuff. I have to try it with
marshmallow creme sometime. And maybe poured over vanilla ice cream.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Tinkster" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:37:10 -0400, "JoAnn Paules"
wrote:

Me too but white bread can be good with a bit of Nutella schmeared on it.

(I finally bought some of that stuff - oh my gawd! It's wonderful!!!)

I am a complete Nutella freak! Thanks for reminding me to get some for
my trip next week. LOL!

Tinkster


---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 6/30/2004

Hi Kandice.

I think I might not have explained some things well enough because I wasn't
advocating for helping or not helping, either way.

While your reaction might be to being frazzled and not having time to help
as you once might have, my reaction was to the fact that someone out their
right now, or many people, are feeling bashed or shamed because the original
post says there is something wrong with asking competitors (fellow artists)
for tips or help. That doing that is wrong...for the fact that it's rude
and bad form. That is what I am disagreeing with.

So, I wasn't really answering the question of when does it stop. I fully
understand what you're saying in that regard. I don't get that many emails
but sometimes it's still too much and I leave them for a later to answer.
Sometimes I get to them a month later, sometimes they just get filed away
never to be answered. Maybe that is rude, but it's a time thing, like with
you, and it happens. I've never had anyone get rude with me because I
didn't answer though, or they didn't get a step by step how to. If one does
not want to disclose their secrets for a technique and also don't want to
say no outright, there are also ways to do that tactfully.

The answer to when do you put a stop to it is whenever you want! How do you
personally put a stop to it might be another question. But the question
remains...is it wrong for people to ask? That's not directed at you,
Kandice, that is just the question.

I'll say it again....I don't think it's wrong because people always have the
right to say 'no' or direct someone somewhere else for the answer. I don't
think there's anything wrong with saying, I don't have time right now but if
I can get back to you I will when I can. It's not a lie. It's honest and I
think people would understand that. Yes, that takes a few seconds to type
too. If that is too much, you don't have to respond at all.

As for the pictures, they do make you stand out. Your pictures are great
and I have to tell you, you were the one that helped me when I started
taking my pictures. I hope you don't regret it and think that you're
getting less bids for helping someone like me. I think my beads stand out
on their own...and not because I personally think they're good, but because
they're just different. I also think, and I thought it was obvious to
anyone who has perfected digital images, that just because you tell someone
what set up, settings, lighting, etc, that that does not mean they'll get
great pictures. There are a lot of variables.

I wrote:
I can't stop. It's interesting to me how people will say how helpful
and
tight the beading/beadmaking community is and then get upset when
someone
asks for help.

You wrote:
Well, I still help a lot of people. Look at my website and all the tips
and
tricks posted there. I post in forums to help out as well - all the time.
Maybe I should stop?


When I said "I can't stop" I meant that I can't stop typing and my post was
getting too long! Not that I couldn't stop helping. Your site is one
of the most helpful, especially hosting the links list. I also didn't mean
you personally about getting upset about others asking for help. Do you get
upset because people ask you, or just that you don't have time? There's a
big difference, and don't feel obligated to answer.

Anyway, that's that.

--------------------------------------
Lori Greenberg
www.beadnerd.com
ebay:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...origre enberg

Dr. Sooz wrote:

I find the photography tips of those here very useful. I always
thought that if I were going to buy a camera again I would definately
come here for advice first.

And that would be fine.


FINE. Just fine. Perfectly fine.

Marisa, dear, you didn't read my post. It had nothing to do with posting a
photography question. It had to do with emailing a competitor.
~~
Sooz


*rereads*

k, got it. thanks.

marisa2

--


================================================== =============

Teva Yafae Original Designs
inspired by nature

For unique jewelry or apparel, or to learn about having your
own Jewelry home-party or children's party, please visit:

http://www.tevayafae.com

================================================== =============

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:55:45 -0400, "JoAnn Paules"
wrote:

I can't believe I've waited so long to try this stuff. I have to try it with
marshmallow creme sometime. And maybe poured over vanilla ice cream.

The only thing I eat it with is my fingers.

:-)

Tink

I wasn't going to jump in on this thread, but I have run out of things
to do to avoid the torch tonight. :-)

Whenever you're good at something, people are going to ask you for
help, information and instruction. Heck, you don't even have to be
GOOD at something for that to happen! LOL!

As one of the first, if not THE first, teddy bear artist online, and
one who wrote a regular column about "Cybearspace" in a niche
magazine, I can attest to the fact that many, many people will quickly
email someone when they would never think of calling or writing a
letter. It's the immediacy thing. I got my share of letters and calls
over the years, too. MORE than my share, I think. But with the advent
of email, all the rules seemed to change.

So I had to decide: Would I help, or wouldn't I? I decided I would.

I not only gave step-by-step instructions to my competitors, I sent
them samples of stuff in the mail, took the 3AM my time calls from
Japan, even had little bears shipped to me for critiques. I did
eventually write a book, which I think has helped a lot more people
than I could have ever helped one-on-one :-)

I never found that helping my competitors had any negative impact on
my sales, nor on the propensity of my work to stand out.

Now I find the same thing happening in the glass world. I'm fortunate
to have prior experience on which to draw. So the question is: Knowing
what I know, do I help people who email me or don't I?

I do.

Yes, it takes time from other stuff I need/want to do. However, there
are several reasons that FOR ME it's the RIGHT thing to do:

* I feel good when I help people.

* Helping others in the industry, competitors or not, helps improve
the quality of work in the industry and, therefore, the industry
itself.

* Thinking things through in order to explain them to others often
teaches us things we didn't know before.

* From a self-serving standpoint, perhaps the person I help today will
be in a position to help me another time.

* When people think of me (and my work), what will matter mo The
fact that I'm helpful, or the fact that I got one additional bead done
today?

Yes, I'm a businessperson. And a pretty darn good one, too, if I do
say so myself. The ONLY thing that has ever worked for me is to stay
away from things that make me uncomfortable: Custom orders, shows,
mondo wholesale... All things that many folks make integral to their
business. I just know what works for me, personally. For me, assisting
others is, indeed, integral to the way *I* do business.

If someone feels very strongly about not answering questions via
email, it might be a good idea to put a statement to that effect on
their website, or make it a part of their sig line. I realize Sooz and
others are saying that people shouldn't ask in the first place, but I
don't agree: I feel they are as free to ask as we are to refuse them.

Tink
www.blackswampglassworks.com