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Old January 12th 04, 07:24 PM
Lindsay MacArthur
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I currently bisque to ^04 but would like to try ^05 to see if the
glazes absorb better. Is there any risk in me doing this on a real
batch or should I try it with some test stuff first?
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Old January 12th 04, 08:06 PM
GaSeku
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At school we bisqued at cone 08 and glaze fired to cone 10. At home, I bisque
to 04 and glaze at 5 to 6. I've seen to big difference between the bisques.
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Old January 12th 04, 10:14 PM
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"Lindsay MacArthur" wrote

I currently bisque to ^04 but would like to try ^05 to see if the
glazes absorb better. Is there any risk in me doing this on a real
batch or should I try it with some test stuff first?


The difference in temp from 04 to 05 is only
between 20 and 30 degrees cooler, depending on
which size cone you use. As cones are
indicators of heat work, and not strictly
temperature, this can mean very little difference
in time depending on your firing schedule.

There should be no risk to your ware in your changing
from 04 to 05. It probably will make little
difference in your glaze absorption, though.
Absorption depends in part on the clay body
you use, which you have not mentioned.

I work with a version of English porcelain, and bisque to
^04. I've noticed little difference when bisquing to ^05 or ^06.
But porcelain is a rather "pure" clay body.
Depending on the organic material in YOUR particular body,
you may experience increased pinholing in the glaze, due to
insufficient heat burning out the organic matter during the bisque,
which would then try and burn out during the glaze firing.

Try it on a few test pieces and see.

Hope that helps,
Wayne Seidl


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Old January 12th 04, 10:48 PM
paula
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if your clay is 04 then it would not be mature at 05 ,and if you glaze
at 06 the result PROBABLY would not be as good, because one should
really bisque at least 2 cones higher than glaze firing. what is
wrong with your glaze???in what way is it not firing right,??? it
could be something else.
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Old January 14th 04, 05:17 PM
Lindsay MacArthur
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I use a ^6 stoneware and I bisque to ^04. My glazes are fine and fire
well, I just wanted to test them out on different temp bisque to see
how well they work.

On 12 Jan 2004 14:48:45 -0800, (paula) wrote:

if your clay is 04 then it would not be mature at 05 ,and if you glaze
at 06 the result PROBABLY would not be as good, because one should
really bisque at least 2 cones higher than glaze firing. what is
wrong with your glaze???in what way is it not firing right,??? it
could be something else.


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Old January 14th 04, 09:26 PM
tony
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Lindsay,
I bisque my ^6 stoneware to ^06. Works for me and it takes a little less
electricity. Not that it costs that much, I figured out one day that a ^6
glaze firing was about $1.75. So maybe save a quarter or so..
I recently heard that the rule is that there are no rules..
Tony


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I use a ^6 stoneware and I bisque to ^04. My glazes are fine and fire
well, I just wanted to test them out on different temp bisque to see
how well they work.

On 12 Jan 2004 14:48:45 -0800, (paula) wrote:

if your clay is 04 then it would not be mature at 05 ,and if you glaze
at 06 the result PROBABLY would not be as good, because one should
really bisque at least 2 cones higher than glaze firing. what is
wrong with your glaze???in what way is it not firing right,??? it
could be something else.




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Old January 15th 04, 09:10 AM
Lee Love
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Lindsay MacArthur wrote:
I currently bisque to ^04 but would like to try ^05 to see if the
glazes absorb better. Is there any risk in me doing this on a real
batch or should I try it with some test stuff first?



Lindsay, what temp do you glaze fire at? I high fire in a wood
fired kiln. My bisque is around 012 and lower. A lower bisque will
allow the ware absorb more water.

My teacher bisques even lower in his noborigama (climbing kiln.)
The top part of the chambers reach red heat, but some of the lower areas
are much cooler. All of his work is dusted and then sponged with a
wet sponge.



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Old February 3rd 04, 05:59 PM
john smyth
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Always test.
Just kidding,
It wont have much noticeable effect changing 1 cone.
Try 06 or 07.
I fire at 08.
Watch for pinholing though.
Thicker glaze may result so watch drippy ones.
E
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I currently bisque to ^04 but would like to try ^05 to see if the
glazes absorb better. Is there any risk in me doing this on a real
batch or should I try it with some test stuff first?



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Old February 12th 04, 06:31 PM
Hannah Hunter
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I fire to cone 10 in a Geil Kiln. When I got my kiln I was bisquing
to cone 07. I didn't think it could make a difference from 06. Well
I started to get pitting in my glazes and could not figure out why.
Someone at Laguna Clay told me that if I didn't bisq high enough that
gases would escape from the clay body in the glaze firing, causing
pitting. So I went to cone 06 and the problem of pitting left. Take
it for what it is worth!
 




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