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LQS Complaints--Other shoe; same foot.
Taria wrote: I told a kid to quit kicking a box at Lowe's a couple of months ago. (he was wailing on the thing) I thouht the dad was going to slug ME. I just shook my head being grateful I don't have kids in school anymore. How on earth do they get people to go into teaching? Taria My mom was an elementary school teacher for 36 years--she just retired two years ago. When she first began teaching, parents were very supportive of the concept of well-disciplined, hard-working children. By the time she retired, approximately 50% did not have the self-discipline to stay in their seats, raise their hand before talking, keep their hands to themselves, much less concentrate on school work. And these were still sweet kids--not juvenile delinquents. But it was apparent that parental expectations regarding manners and self-discipline, much less the pride of doing a job well has gone by the wayside. Failing to learn these behaviors interfered with these kids' ability to learn and will prevent them from being good employees if they don't learn it somewhere a long the way. The scary thing was when my mom would talk to the parents about it, it was never their "little darlings" fault. And even scarier is when my mom would receive notes from parents about uncompleted homework stating that the kid's soccer practice took precedent over school work. Ahem. You couldn't pay me enough to do that job. Michelle in NV |
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Now cell/mobile phones
Doesn't matter what it sounds like... if I hear a cell ringing, I check
mine. Yes, I have a cool downloaded ringtone... but I still check. -- Wendy http://griffinsflight.com/Quilting/quilt1.htm De-STUFF email address to reply "Sandy Ellison" wrote in message ... Howdy! Exactly. Most of the comments I've heard are "I can hear that!" g You can even hear it pinging? So I'm not the only one! ;-D Ragmop/Sandy- btw, you're not that much older than I 8- On 6/15/06 9:15 AM, in article , "Roberta Zollner" wrote: That pinging noise? No problem hearing that, and I'm older than you! Roberta in D, wishing sometimes I could turn my ears off "Sandy Ellison" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... Howdy! My Avon lady (good friend) told me about this, Monday, a ring tone that we "older" folks aren't supposed to be able to hear. http://tinyurl.com/juf9l I can hear it. Some dept. stores still have electronic equipment running that I can hear buzzing/whining above my head. Ooooerrrrgh! Meanwhile, I appreciate having my mobile phone available, for *my* use. Not in a check-out line, not in a meeting, not at the table in a restaurant, not while I'm driving. I mean, if I drove and phoned, how could I, with a clear conscience, yell at other drivers? : "Hang up and drive! It's an automobile, not a phone booth on wheels!" G It was a joy to have that phone with me in Paducah last year; called dear husband back at work in Dallas, exclaiming over the charm & beauty of that old downtown area. He shared my excitement and looks forward to going to Paducah with me later this year. Ragmop/Sandy --my Avon lady & I are thinking of inventing a "detector" that will sniff out those whining cell phone tones g You can |
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LQS Complaints--Other shoe; same foot.
You are right ... Wendy would not let
her kiddos run wild. OTOH, have you ever shopped with Wendy?? Talk about wild and crazy!! ;P PAT Georg wrote: frood wrote: This is true. However, I was writing under the assumption that Dannielle will parent with the same level of intelligence and common sense she has shown in her posts here. Me too- and I don't think she'd let the kid run wild, and more than you would. It's common sense, but sadly it seems to be in short supply with those that garner the most attention. -georg |
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Now cell/mobile phones
Yeah, a Pavlovian Response ... like
whenever one of my two DS are in the same town as me, I automatically look around when I hear a male call out "Mom!" Now I even respond when I hear a female voice ... could be one of the DILs. Either case, I love to hear my 'kids' call me Mom! PAT frood wrote: Doesn't matter what it sounds like... if I hear a cell ringing, I check mine. Yes, I have a cool downloaded ringtone... but I still check. |
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LQS Complaints--Other shoe; same foot.
Yes, it does mean they are unruly. Why do you think that allowing your
children to roam and yell is ok? That's ridiculous. I don't go to a quilt store to listen to a kid scream. If you can't control 'em, keep 'em at home until you can. It's just not fair of parents to inflict their children on others, period. People go out to stores and such to ESCAPE their children sometimes, to have grown-up time for themselves. Other people just plain don't like ill-mannered children. If you take them in public it is your DUTY as a parent to keep them with you, quiet and well-behaved. This is the way one behaves properly in public, and to allow otherwise is bad teaching. L Anita said: If I may interject... is it so bad to bring : unruly children into a store? I mean, does : the fact that children roam, crawl, and yell : make them unruly? I do not mean to be : facetious (or maybe I am just being defensive), : but we often go to our LQS as a whole family. : DH sits on the floor and tries to keep the two : kids under control. But, kids crawl and roam. : Sometimes they yell. We do not permit them to : touch the fabric, walls, displays, anything. |
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LQS Complaints--Other shoe; same foot.
Thanks Wendy. I do try very hard to parent with all of my brain cells.
Some days it is me that has the meltdown, however. On those days, I try especially hard to stay home!!!! Dannielle frood wrote: This is true. However, I was writing under the assumption that Dannielle will parent with the same level of intelligence and common sense she has shown in her posts here. -- Wendy http://griffinsflight.com/Quilting/quilt1.htm De-STUFF email address to reply "Georg" wrote in message ... frood wrote: Just remember, any woman who gives you a dirty look when your kids act up either didn't have any herself, or can't remember that kids have meltdowns. I try very hard to be sympathetic. Some exploration is expected. Some enthusiasm is fine. I can understand a temper-tantrum too. But I expect mom to be paying attention to the child at that point. It's not going to go on for very long with mom right there and doing something about it... compared to the tantrum all the way across the store, or the child grabbing *my* things. Curiosity about what I am doing is fine, and I usually respond positively. But that's different than grabbing my shopping selections or what I am reaching for. It's hard to say where the line is between what I will give a dirty look for or actually dare to interfere (which is much further along). Parenting is a very hard job to do. I do try to compliment good parents and good kids. -georg |
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LQS Complaints--Other shoe; same foot.
The repercussions depend on how you're raising your child. My parents
spanked. Therefore, we would be removed and spanked. If you're not a spanker, you can STILL remove the kid and take it home. On behalf of everyone you might come in contact with in a store, THANK YOU for being a "remover"! Those who take on the responsibility of raising a child give up a lot of their own freedom. For responsible parents, that unfortunately includes the freedom to shop or otherwise be out in public if the kid is encroaching on others with its noise or actions. L "Dannielle" wrote in message oups.com... But what was the repercussions if you DID misbehave? Little ones that are too small to be left in the car but are misbehaving and crying and annoying everyone...what did your parents do with that child? I do remove her from the store so as not to annoy other shoppers, and I do try everything I can order to assure a nice quiet shopping trip. |
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Thanks to everyone for your insights! Sometimes it just helps to hear
from others who are both parents and not parents! I think I am doing well. I remove her when she gets out of control, I try to entertain her while shopping, making sure she has toys, snacks or drinks as necessary, and leave her elsewhere when I know I cannot properly pay attention to her (like at the fabric stores!) or I do go when she will sleep in the stroller through TSWLTH! I try to make sure that I pay attention to her at all times so that she is not touching anything she's not allowed to touch, and I am insistent that she learn what I have come to term "Old fashioned behaviour." You know, the kind we grew up with...based on respect for our fellow humans! Sometimes I have to shop with her being a terror, but usually only when I have to get to the pharmacy for medication and it just can't be helped...but I try to avoid those situations too! For anyone who might receive a bonk on the head from my DD, I apologize in advance! *grin* Dannielle blackrosequilts wrote: Valerie in FL wrote: I got bonked on the head with a spoon wielded by a 3-year-old in a restaurant last week. I didn't even get an apology from her parents, so this is absolutely a sore subject with me. That's outrageous. An unruly small kid hit me at a parish picnic, back when my kids were small and I was holding a toy the kid thought was his (but actually belonged to us). The mother didn't apologize. The grandfather picked him up and the kid proceeded to pummel his grandfather's bald pate. They made no attempt to control this violence. Easy to see why the kid felt free to punch a strange adult. More recently, I have a new neighbor with an unruly toddler that hauled off and hit my dog while my dog was playing with their new puppy (my dog is still a puppy herself). Fortunately Rommi flinched away in time to miss the full force of the blow, so she wasn't badly hurt, but at four pounds, she's a tiny dog and even a small child can seriously injure her. The mother did apologize, but she did absolutely nothing to control her child. The kid ran around completely ignoring her. The puppy is half husky and clearly of a naturally dominant disposition, and she wasn't doing anything about that either. Gonna be interesting to see how *that* plays out. -- blackrosequilts My train of thought left the station without me. http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts 2005 BOMs: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/blackrosequilts/my_photos -------- __o ----- -\. -------- __o --- ( )/ ( ) ---- -\. -------------------- ( )/ ( ) ----------------------------------------- |
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....and it also helps to have a sense of humor sometimes.
Thanks for the giggle. Taria, I'll bonk back : ) Dannielle wrote: I try to avoid those situations too! For anyone who might receive a bonk on the head from my DD, I apologize in advance! *grin* Dannielle |
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LQS Complaints--Other shoe; same foot.
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 07:59:19 -0400, "Valerie in FL"
wrote: Children who roam, crawl and yell *are* unruly. It's not unreasonable to expect children to be taught consideration for others at an early age, and that includes understanding where that sort of behavior is and is not acceptable. I know I had it easier as a parent by having just one child, but even so, I had been known for taking a cart with several items in it to a clerk and telling her I'm sorry, but I have to go, and dragging my 'unruly' 2-year-old child out of there. She soon learned how to behave, because she loved to go shopping with me, and hated it when I cut the trip short because she didn't behave. I only had to do it twice. She is now 25 and extremely polite and well-mannered, and complains about other people's unruly children. Just like her mom. If one wants to let 'children be children', one should do it in their own house, or backyard, or a playground, where that sort of behavior is acceptable. If you haven't bothered to teach your children how to behave in restaurants and stores, then don't take them until you have. I got bonked on the head with a spoon wielded by a 3-year-old in a restaurant last week. I didn't even get an apology from her parents, so this is absolutely a sore subject with me. Hmm. I was putting apples into a bag while shopping in Portsmouth, so this must have been 1997, when I was down there for about 6 months. A small boy - about 2 - was kicking me and kicking me from his trolley. I looked over to his mum, who looked at me and said nothing. So I said, "Could you stop kicking me please?" There's nothing quite like a stranger speaking to a child to make them go all quiet! Yes, I agree it's the parents who pretend nothing is happening, and do not address the situation who are the most annoying. -- Jo in Scotland |
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