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Glass from hell
Moonraker wrote:
"Michael" wrote in message ups.com... Javahut wrote: I have found with a great many people, their cutting improves when they stop trying to shove the wheel thru the glass. ************ Haha! Guilty as charged. Michael Yeah, me, too. About two years ago, I had the opportunity to collaborate in my studio with Mr. Javahut on a huge SG project that I had to complete under some tight deadlines. I've been in and around the glass business for a few 24 hrs now, and I considered myself a pretty good craftsman and pretty proficient in cutting glass. My jaw hung open as I watched Java cut down sheet after sheet of opal glass with nary a stray run. I can tell you from first hand experience and observation that his "lighten-up" advice is what everybody needs to do. He taught me to listen to the sound the score makes. Different kinds (and manufacturers) of glass need different pressures to score properly, but the sound of a correct score is pretty similar. You'll know that sweet sound when you hear it. Using a bathroom scale to figure out how much pressure you are putting on the glass is, well, just plain latrine advice. Believe what you are told by people who actually make a living in the glass business, not a discredited scam artist. P.S....next time you have a trip to Atlanta, send me a private email. Maybe we can hook up? In addition what Moonraker said (listen the sound) there are acouple of other cues. - If you get any tiny schards, you are over pressing - Look at the score. It must be a hardly visble clean line with no jagged edges - After breaking, look at the cutting surface with a magnifying glass. A bad score leaves deep scale-like irregularities, a good score has onlu slight scales and the core of the glass is broken clear and straight -lauri |
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"Michael" wrote in message oups.com... I was doing a rose window over the weekend and I got in a wrestling match with some Spectrum red ruby waterglass and it just about whupped me. I produced scrap on about a quarter of the pieces, having to redo some three times. To be honest, it wasn't all the glass's fault. I'd been lucky with easy cutting glass before that and I got into bad habits like not doing preliminary cuts on concave parts. I also found out that I just about had to do just one cut and break at a time. Multiple cuts before breaking broke into the other cuts. Anyway, this window is my third now and I can see the quality of my work improving. Very satisfying. I'm getting closer fits with less grinding. Michael First of all red is one of the easier ones to work with. Next, I NEVER score and break more than 1 cut at a time. I've taught thousands..... "1 score, 1 break". I think that all those "relief cuts" are useless, and only make the area you're working with weaker, more prone to trouble, and later crack running when soldering. Sure there's always different ways to do things, but my way works everytime. -- JK Sinrod www.SinrodStudios.com www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com |
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On Sep 25, 7:02 pm, " Moonraker" wrote:
"Michael" wrote in message ups.com... Javahut wrote: I have found with a great many people, their cutting improves when they stop trying to shove the wheel thru the glass. ************ Haha! Guilty as charged. Michael Yeah, me, too. About two years ago, I had the opportunity to collaborate in my studio with Mr. Javahut on a huge SG project that I had to complete under some tight deadlines. I've been in and around the glass business for a few 24 hrs now, and I considered myself a pretty good craftsman and pretty proficient in cutting glass. My jaw hung open as I watched Java cut down sheet after sheet of opal glass with nary a stray run. I can tell you from first hand experience and observation that his "lighten-up" advice is what everybody needs to do. He taught me to listen to the sound the score makes. Different kinds (and manufacturers) of glass need different pressures to score properly, but the sound of a correct score is pretty similar. You'll know that sweet sound when you hear it. Using a bathroom scale to figure out how much pressure you are putting on the glass is, well, just plain latrine advice. Believe what you are told by people who actually make a living in the glass business, not a discredited scam artist. P.S....next time you have a trip to Atlanta, send me a private email. Maybe we can hook up? Odd that Bullseye Glass would adopt that latrine advice and post it on their website. |
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haa! i wondered where you stole that from!m
Odd that Bullseye Glass would adopt that latrine advice and post it on their website. |
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Glass from hell
On Sep 26, 9:33 am, "michele" wrote:
haa! i wondered where you stole that from!m Odd that Bullseye Glass would adopt that latrine advice and post it on their website. It was borrowed the other way. Along with many other glass techniques, I've been teaching the scale trick for over 20 years and taught it 10 years ago at Las Vegas Glass Craft Expo. The Cutting Clinic classes my son and I taught always sold out - usually had to accept an overflow. Watch for a series of how to cut glass videos on Glass Campus. The one now up on cutting a circle is very popular. Along with a dozen or so more articles, I expect to have the videos on tapping and grozing loaded next week or so. Of particular interest to stained glass beginners (especially the basement bandits) is a detailed article on how to price stained glass. It will be accompanied by an article on Marketing (how to find clients and how to sell your work). http://www.glasscampus.com/tutorials.htm |
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wrote in message oups.com... .. It was borrowed the other way. snip predictible self-serving scamming bull**** So now you are claiming that Bullseye stole "YOUR" idea? Bwahahahahaha! Don't you have enough to do covering your tracks on you kiln sales scams without displaying your ignorance around here? BTW, the "latrine" reference was because you are a **** head. LOL |
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On Sep 26, 11:12 am, " Moonraker" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... . It was borrowed the other way. snip predictible self-serving scamming bull**** So now you are claiming that Bullseye stole "YOUR" idea? Bwahahahahaha! Don't you have enough to do covering your tracks on you kiln sales scams without displaying your ignorance around here? BTW, the "latrine" reference was because you are a **** head. LOL http://www.glasscampus.com/tutorials...apt_or_Die.pdf |
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Glass from hell
On Sep 26, 10:33 am, wrote:
On Sep 26, 9:33 am, "michele" wrote: haa! i wondered where you stole that from!m Odd that Bullseye Glass would adopt that latrine advice and post it on their website. It was borrowed the other way. Along with many other glass techniques, I've been teaching the scale trick for over 20 years and taught it 10 years ago at Las Vegas Glass Craft Expo. The Cutting Clinic classes my son and I taught always sold out - usually had to accept an overflow. Watch for a series of how to cut glass videos on Glass Campus. The one now up on cutting a circle is very popular. Along with a dozen or so more articles, I expect to have the videos on tapping and grozing loaded next week or so. Of particular interest to stained glass beginners (especially the basement bandits) is a detailed article on how to price stained glass. It will be accompanied by an article on Marketing (how to find clients and how to sell your work). http://www.glasscampus.com/tutorials.htm I hope your not taking the scale trick as your invention. I've been using it for almost 30 years. BTW...what happened to you this year at Las Vegas?? |
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Glass from hell
On Sep 26, 2:00 pm, " wrote:
On Sep 26, 10:33 am, wrote: On Sep 26, 9:33 am, "michele" wrote: haa! i wondered where you stole that from!m Odd that Bullseye Glass would adopt that latrine advice and post it on their website. It was borrowed the other way. Along with many other glass techniques, I've been teaching the scale trick for over 20 years and taught it 10 years ago at Las Vegas Glass Craft Expo. The Cutting Clinic classes my son and I taught always sold out - usually had to accept an overflow. Watch for a series of how to cut glass videos on Glass Campus. The one now up on cutting a circle is very popular. Along with a dozen or so more articles, I expect to have the videos on tapping and grozing loaded next week or so. Of particular interest to stained glass beginners (especially the basement bandits) is a detailed article on how to price stained glass. It will be accompanied by an article on Marketing (how to find clients and how to sell your work). http://www.glasscampus.com/tutorials.htm I hope your not taking the scale trick as your invention. I've been using it for almost 30 years. BTW...what happened to you this year at Las Vegas?? I was in exhibit booth 106 busy writing orders for kilns, and wet belt sanders and rociprolaps and glass and loads of other great stuff. Same as I'll be next year. Exhibit space is already booked. http//www.debrady.com/about/VegasExpo/Dennis%20Vegas%202007.jpg I have a fantastic assortment of brand new products to be introduced next Vegas Expo. Might even have the first "Victorian Master Artisan" kiln on exhibit. Watch for my ad on the inside front cover of the show schedule catalog (same place it is every year). The latest edition of "A Lazy Man's Guide to Stained Glass" will be there - along with the new book "A Beginner's Guide to Kiln Cookin' Glass". |
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On Sep 26, 3:32 pm, wrote:
On Sep 26, 2:00 pm, " wrote: On Sep 26, 10:33 am, wrote: On Sep 26, 9:33 am, "michele" wrote: haa! i wondered where you stole that from!m Odd that Bullseye Glass would adopt that latrine advice and post it on their website. It was borrowed the other way. Along with many other glass techniques, I've been teaching the scale trick for over 20 years and taught it 10 years ago at Las Vegas Glass Craft Expo. The Cutting Clinic classes my son and I taught always sold out - usually had to accept an overflow. Watch for a series of how to cut glass videos on Glass Campus. The one now up on cutting a circle is very popular. Along with a dozen or so more articles, I expect to have the videos on tapping and grozing loaded next week or so. Of particular interest to stained glass beginners (especially the basement bandits) is a detailed article on how to price stained glass. It will be accompanied by an article on Marketing (how to find clients and how to sell your work). http://www.glasscampus.com/tutorials.htm I hope your not taking the scale trick as your invention. I've been using it for almost 30 years. BTW...what happened to you this year at Las Vegas?? I was in exhibit booth 106 busy writing orders for kilns, and wet belt sanders and rociprolaps and glass and loads of other great stuff. Same as I'll be next year. Exhibit space is already booked. http//www.debrady.com/about/VegasExpo/Dennis%20Vegas%202007.jpg I have a fantastic assortment of brand new products to be introduced next Vegas Expo. Might even have the first "Victorian Master Artisan" kiln on exhibit. Watch for my ad on the inside front cover of the show schedule catalog (same place it is every year). The latest edition of "A Lazy Man's Guide to Stained Glass" will be there - along with the new book "A Beginner's Guide to Kiln Cookin' Glass".- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Awesome, I really need to learn more about glass trends and such... I might even have to go down to Vegas this coming year.... After all, Vegas is about to become 'My Mexico'. Buy Canadian T-Bills and retire early ! Heh, heh.... /MM |
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