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Adrian Brentnall wrote:
Hi nJb On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 09:40:29 -0600, nJb wrote: Adrian Brentnall wrote: Hmmm - never thought of that ! I must admit that the price of kilns is quite staggering for what they are.... but then, the same could be said of a lot of things.... Anybody on here followed the 'diy' route - any experiences ? I could buy a lot of glass for the 750 Uk Pounds ! g Thanks Adrian Try he http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/xmissionbobo/my_photos I built this one for around $2200 and I think that included $500 for the welding machine. Phew - that's some kiln ! Though I did see a bigger one on holiday on the Amalfi Coast in Italy - they were using it to fire enamel onto granite (?) tabletops - which were from 4 ft round up to 4ft x 8 ft...... Anyway - very interesting. - thanks ! My kiln is 56 Amps. I read the meter one evening, loaded two large 1/4" float glass pieces to be slumped, and then read the meter in the morning. Electrical usage for my entire house and kiln during that period was less than $3. I should be picking up a 4'x8' Denver Bell Kiln soon. The price is too good to pass up. -- Jack bobo1148atxmissiondotcom http://www.glassartguild.com/gallery/jack_bowman |
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Hi again
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:05:05 -0600, nJb wrote: Adrian Brentnall wrote: Hi nJb On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 09:40:29 -0600, nJb wrote: Adrian Brentnall wrote: Hmmm - never thought of that ! I must admit that the price of kilns is quite staggering for what they are.... but then, the same could be said of a lot of things.... Anybody on here followed the 'diy' route - any experiences ? I could buy a lot of glass for the 750 Uk Pounds ! g Thanks Adrian Try he http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/xmissionbobo/my_photos I built this one for around $2200 and I think that included $500 for the welding machine. Phew - that's some kiln ! Though I did see a bigger one on holiday on the Amalfi Coast in Italy - they were using it to fire enamel onto granite (?) tabletops - which were from 4 ft round up to 4ft x 8 ft...... Anyway - very interesting. - thanks ! My kiln is 56 Amps. I read the meter one evening, loaded two large 1/4" float glass pieces to be slumped, and then read the meter in the morning. Electrical usage for my entire house and kiln during that period was less than $3. That sounds very good. Electricity must be fairly cheap over there - presumably it's running off 3-phase.... The place we're moving from in the UK is wired for 3-phase - only one phase has a meter connected, though I rather suspect the that previous owner used to play tricks with the other two phases..... g I should be picking up a 4'x8' Denver Bell Kiln soon. The price is too good to pass up. What a beast ! Presumably it fires like a smaller kiln - but slower ? I guess if you are firing a piece of glass that big you'd need to take it a bit gently anyway..... Tell me - on a larger kiln (as in 14" - larger than my baby paragon) would you expect to get a more even heating inside the kiln. I ask because I'm always loading the little shelf with rows of pendant pieces - only to find that the stuff at the back has fused perfectly - but the stuff near the front-opening door needs to go round again. I've been doing some kiln-carving - and a square piece of glass that's been slumped is noticeably trapezoidal after slumping - wider at the front where it's cooler and narrower at the back where it's hotter. If things were more uniform in a larger kiln then I could maybe sell off the little SC2 to part-fund the new one.....? what do you think ? I'll go to bed tonight & dream of 8ft x 4ft kilns - sad eh ?? g Thanks Adrian ======return email munged================= take out the papers and the trash to reply |
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Oh, you might also want to ask for references of other happy customers. That shouldn't be too long of a list. It would be especially entertaining to have a list of those on this news group who have done business with Dennis. Anybody? anybody at all? Ask that question on the warm glass board. Our kiln sales average about one each day. We regularly ship kilns, belt sanders, glass, etc. to Europe and Australia. We're just now consolidating a shipment to South Africa and working out prices to ship a mix of tools and cases of glass to Norway. Our market is international with a list of happy customers worldwide. |
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wrote in message oups.com... Oh, you might also want to ask for references of other happy customers. That shouldn't be too long of a list. It would be especially entertaining to have a list of those on this news group who have done business with Dennis. Anybody? anybody at all? Ask that question on the warm glass board. Our kiln sales average about one each day. We regularly ship kilns, belt sanders, glass, etc. to Europe and Australia. We're just now consolidating a shipment to South Africa and working out prices to ship a mix of tools and cases of glass to Norway. Our market is international with a list of happy customers worldwide. Ummmhuh. Off yer meds again, ain't cha? I think you've been counting your kiln sales like you figure electrical costs....forgetting to divide by a thousand again. You are peddling Covington sanders. Explain to me why anyone would buy from a middleman when they can buy direct from the mfg. at a similar cost. Why would anyone in their right mind want to do business with a lunatic crackpot who is the laughing stock of the stained glass world instead of dealing directly with the manufacturer and getting some truthful answers? Only answer I can come up with is that they are dumber than you are. Hopefully, that gene pool will soon get a well-deserved splash of Clorox. I've been to the Kansas City Stockyards on sale day. Even they don't have as much bull**** to scoop as we do after you start spewing all over a thread. |
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You are peddling Covington sanders. Explain to me why anyone would buy from a middleman when they can buy direct from the mfg. at a similar cost. Look up the prices on Covington's website. Compare them with the prices on the Victorian Art Glass website. Do the same with Aim kilns. Dennis Brady Victorian Art Glass - http://www.victorianartglass.biz DeBrady Glass - http://www.debrady.com Glass Campus - http://www.glasscampus.com |
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wrote in message oups.com... You are peddling Covington sanders. Explain to me why anyone would buy from a middleman when they can buy direct from the mfg. at a similar cost. Look up the prices on Covington's website. Compare them with the prices on the Victorian Art Glass website. Do the same with Aim kilns. I'd gladly pay the extra $30 on a sander just to avoid having to deal with a lunatic like you. |
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Moonraker wrote: wrote in message oups.com... You are peddling Covington sanders. Explain to me why anyone would buy from a middleman when they can buy direct from the mfg. at a similar cost. Look up the prices on Covington's website. Compare them with the prices on the Victorian Art Glass website. Do the same with Aim kilns. I'd gladly pay the extra $30 on a sander just to avoid having to deal with a lunatic like you. There is treatment for your problem. http://www.athealth.com/consumer/dis...Psychotic.html |
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wrote in message oups.com... I'd gladly pay the extra $30 on a sander just to avoid having to deal with a lunatic like you. There is treatment for your problem. http://www.athealth.com/consumer/dis...Psychotic.html How original. Brady is a lying psychopath. Read him if you want to, respond to him if you want to, but understand that he's a congenital liar as well as a classic troll and posts to this group solely to elicit responses and fan flames. He actually gets off on other people's negative responses and lacks the balls to actually be a rapist or a serial killer and lacks the talent to be a glass artisan, so he takes the virtual reality route. This is the only way he has of attracting attention or eliciting any kind of response to himself at all. My guess is that he's an ugly, pimply assed, pencil necked little geek with no real life and whose only source of gratification is sitting in the glow of his monitor and stirring **** on message boards for people he knows he'll never have to stand up to in person, no matter how many glowing testimonials he posts for himself. |
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Brady is a lying psychopath. Read him if you want to, respond to him if you want to, but understand that he's a congenital liar as well as a classic troll and posts to this group solely to elicit responses and fan flames. He actually gets off on other people's negative responses and lacks the balls to actually be a rapist or a serial killer and lacks the talent to be a glass artisan, so he takes the virtual reality route. This is the only way he has of attracting attention or eliciting any kind of response to himself at all. My guess is that he's an ugly, pimply assed, pencil necked little geek with no real life and whose only source of gratification is sitting in the glow of his monitor and stirring **** on message boards for people he knows he'll never have to stand up to in person, no matter how many glowing testimonials he posts for himself. psy·cho·path ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sk-pth) n. A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse |
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