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Is what we do an art or a craft? Was to a local "art" show this summer and kinda came away ticked off. All the oil paintings and watercolours were in the art tents, whilst all the stained glass was shuffled off to the craft tents. Admittidly, Aunt Martha's 13 piece rooster made into a garden stake is a long way from "art", but Uncle Bill's 375 piece parrot on a branch is a long way from a craft. At what point does a craft become an art? At what point is art considered a craft? Are candle boxes and 9 piece suncatchers art or craft? Is a 28 piece lampshade art? Is a 700 piece tiffany lampshade a craft? What differentiates an art from a craft? Is the intended use of the end product the difference between art and craft? Art is created for the sake of creation while craft is create for a profit? |
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wrote in message ... Is what we do an art or a craft? 99% is craft. Most use storebought patterns, and follow a line. Some have the ability to raise it to an art, when they have a vision of an end product that's somehow new and different. This in no way should diminish what you do. -- JK Sinrod www.SinrodStudios.com www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com |
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On 14 Dec, 15:00, wrote:
Is what we do an art or a craft? What we "do" is work in a particular medium. What we use that medium for determines whether the result is "art" or "craft" |
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(Art, Artist ... one who practises fine art, especially painting ; one who
makes his craft fine art I call myself an artist / craftperson, I do painting, sculpture, pottery, and other works of art/craft, but they are one off items so fine art. But yes I get very annoyed when my art gets lumbered in just as craft, and not as art. You see I believe it is the art of the craftperson, for we all have to know our craft. Elaine. |
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Fair enough, I can see that using a store bought pattern makes it a craft. In one sense, using a store bought pattern compares somewhat to a paint by number set, although the actual work, or craft, entails much more effort. But, as far as using a pattern, do many artists not do a preliminary sketch either in rough or on the actual canvas, and then build on it? (i'm not an painter or drawer so I'm just guessing that they do a preliminary). is this pretty not much the same as the patterns we use? How much originality does an "artist" who displays 15 paintings, all variations on one theme, show? How many vases full of roses, or daisies, or geraniums, or petunias, or lilacs, or dandelions must one see before the originality wears off? How many wolves standing knee deep in snow, howling against a backdrop of bare trees and sombre sky must be created before the idea or theme is no longer original? And I do agree with you, whatever it's called, it should not demean our efforts. I suppose "art" is in the eye of the beholder? On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:56:56 GMT, "Glassman@work" wrote: wrote in message .. . Is what we do an art or a craft? 99% is craft. Most use storebought patterns, and follow a line. Some have the ability to raise it to an art, when they have a vision of an end product that's somehow new and different. This in no way should diminish what you do. |
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Okay Frank, how does our *use* of the medium determine whether it's deemed art or craft? Making 5 nearly identical panels for sale is craft or art? Dennis Brady, a gentleman who's presence here isn't overly welcomed by many, produces a varied line of stained glass sailing ships. I can honestly say I've never seen that done elsewhere. Ergo, to me at least, it's original. However, he does it with a commercial bias, he's only in it for the money. Is he an artist or a craftsperson? On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:24:34 -0800 (PST), Frank in UK wrote: On 14 Dec, 15:00, wrote: Is what we do an art or a craft? What we "do" is work in a particular medium. What we use that medium for determines whether the result is "art" or "craft" |
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Grin, most of my own designs fall into the later designation Steve. Not craft, not art, but crap. Hell, I couldn't draw flies if I was covered in s.....sugar. As far as the paint by numbers, I'm sure they were there, but the "artiists" of these fine masterpieces had the foresight to make sure to put extra paint over the numbers so they couldn't be seen. Damn crafty move if you ask me . . . True enough, I suppose the intricacy or detail isn't a concern. There is stunning work in all mediums, and the detail, or lack of, is often part of the magic of the art. If we use the criteria of "designing it yourself" as the calling card to art, I can kind of agree to that to a degree. However, if I design a vase of roses, regardless of how I lay the pattern out, 3, 5, 7, or 11 roses, isn't the whole theme rather stale? Do I not lose on the originality aspect and revert back to a craft? Grin, are there any "original" ideas left? On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:03:38 -0500, Steve Ackman wrote: In , on Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:00:55 -0500, , wrote: Is what we do an art or a craft? If you follow someone else's pattern, it's craft. If you design your own, it might be art... or it might be crap. ;-) Was to a local "art" show this summer and kinda came away ticked off. All the oil paintings and watercolours were in the art tents, Were the paint-by-numbers in the art tent as well? Is a 28 piece lampshade art? Is a 700 piece tiffany lampshade a craft? The intricacy or amount of time it takes isn't a determining factor. Is a paint-by-number kit with 128 colors, and 1024 separate areas any more art than the one with 12 colors and 100 areas? What differentiates an art from a craft? Whether you designed it or not is the primary criteria. Is the intended use of the end product the difference between art and craft? No. Art is created for the sake of creation while craft is create for a profit? No. Art is created. Craft is recreated. |
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Sounds like you kinda agree with Steve, and I do like your outlook on it. We learn and practice our craft, so we can produce our art, so long as we step it up from reproducing pre-drawn patterns. Kind of a neat and succinct definition. As far as glass crafts being lumped into the craft tents at art shows and exhibits, I'd dare say it's more of a practical organizational decision on behalf of the oranizers. Most of the glass booths at the exhibit that originally brought this topic up, were trying to sell suncatchers and trinkets buy the dozens. There wasn't one booth where I didn't recognize patterns released by Spectrum and other popular pattern publishers. Of the 6 or so booths, there was only one, in my opinion, that actually had original art on display, for display's sake, and at that, she too was peddling the popular trinkets and such. On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:45:53 +1000, "Elaine Coggins" wrote: (Art, Artist ... one who practises fine art, especially painting ; one who makes his craft fine art I call myself an artist / craftperson, I do painting, sculpture, pottery, and other works of art/craft, but they are one off items so fine art. But yes I get very annoyed when my art gets lumbered in just as craft, and not as art. You see I believe it is the art of the craftperson, for we all have to know our craft. Elaine. |
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wrote in message ... Dennis Brady, a gentleman who's presence here isn't overly welcomed by many, produces a varied line of stained glass sailing ships. I can honestly say I've never seen that done elsewhere. Ergo, to me at least, it's original. However, he does it with a commercial bias, he's only in it for the money. Is he an artist or a craftsperson? Charlatan. |
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