OT What was your earliest memory?

We did that with DD. SHe learned to speak much earlier and more clearly because of
it.

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"Mary Rurup" wrote in message
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that's why with some groups, they are teaching the children to sign. A
child (hearing or deaf) will sign to deaf parents at about 9 months old,
give or take, basic signs (like bottle).

Mary


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"Kathy N-V" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:58:14 -0400, Dr. Sooz wrote
(in message ):

YES! I knew it! I always see that look on a baby's face, and I tell
them,
"It's okay, you'll be able to talk soon. It's okay. You poor little
thing."

My DD learned to talk very, very early (full sentences at well under a
year
old). Before she was able to articulate, she'd hoot and grunt and make
all
sorts of nonsensical noises, along with much finger pointing and serious
expressions. We didn't know what she was saying, but she was very
determined
about whatever she was telling us.

I often wonder if her early verbal ability is the reason she didn't have
"the
terrible twos" or tantrums of any kind. (Well, she had one tantrum. I
told
her "I don't need to hear this," and walked away. She never had one
again)

I suspect that a lot of tantrums are simply pent up frustration at not
being
able to get the simplest messsage across.

Kathy N-V

And ASL is a fascinating language in its own right. One that it
couldn't hurt a kid to know.

Deirdre

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 21:23:39 GMT, "Mary Rurup"
wrote:

that's why with some groups, they are teaching the children to sign. A
child (hearing or deaf) will sign to deaf parents at about 9 months old,
give or take, basic signs (like bottle).

Mary

ASL is symbols as opposed to the Helen Keller alphabet, isn't it. My
understanding is that the language is more relational and right brained,
than our verbal, quantified way of speaking. It would encourage an
additional way of thinking.

Here in Alaska, many Native languages are dying out. Linguist and
anthropologists are seeing a loss of cultural values accompanying loss of
spoken languages.

Tina


"Deirdre S." wrote in message
...
And ASL is a fascinating language in its own right. One that it
couldn't hurt a kid to know.

Deirdre

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 21:23:39 GMT, "Mary Rurup"
wrote:

that's why with some groups, they are teaching the children to sign. A
child (hearing or deaf) will sign to deaf parents at about 9 months old,
give or take, basic signs (like bottle).

Mary

Exactly. And when you have more than one cultural/linguistic 'filter'
through which to view the world, you become aware of the existence of
filters, and how they 'color' things differently, depending on which
you're looking through at the moment.

Gives you a grasp of what I think of as cultural relativity.

Deirdre

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 18:38:17 GMT, "Christina Peterson"
wrote:

ASL is symbols as opposed to the Helen Keller alphabet, isn't it. My
understanding is that the language is more relational and right brained,
than our verbal, quantified way of speaking. It would encourage an
additional way of thinking.

In article ,
says...

Exactly. And when you have more than one cultural/linguistic 'filter'
through which to view the world, you become aware of the existence of
filters, and how they 'color' things differently, depending on which
you're looking through at the moment.

Gives you a grasp of what I think of as cultural relativity.

Janet Kagan's "HellSpark" is all about this! Well, actually the cultural stuff
is background for a murder mystery that's wrapped around a first-contact story,
and there's another subplot about what constitutes sentience. Lots of meat for
one little book!

Celine

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In article ,
uppies (Dr. Sooz) wrote:

Kalera, you are a unique and wonderful soul on this earth. I love it.

blush shucks, thanks Sooz! You're making me feel all warm-fuzzy-happy
tonight!

--
-Kalera
Mom of Juliet, 5, Sam, 3, and Ophelia, born 5/31/03
Wife of the incomparable Moxley of www.spaceplex.com
See us at www.strattonhome.org

In article ,
uppies (Dr. Sooz) wrote:

YES! I knew it! I always see that look on a baby's face, and I tell them,
"It's okay, you'll be able to talk soon. It's okay. You poor little thing."

Isn't it just funny and awful at the same time? I watch my littlest
battle her hands to make them do what she wants, and then when she gets
frustrated she just balls them into fists and starts cussing them out
something fierce, it's hilarious to watch but at the same time I feel so
bad for her!

Luckily she doesn't understand much verbal language yet, but in a few
months when she understands a lot and can't say anything, she's going to
be *so* frustrated!

--
-Kalera
Mom of Juliet, 5, Sam, 3, and Ophelia, born 5/31/03
Wife of the incomparable Moxley of www.spaceplex.com
See us at www.strattonhome.org

Kalera Stratton wrote:
In article ,
uppies (Dr. Sooz) wrote:

YES! I knew it! I always see that look on a baby's face, and I tell them,
"It's okay, you'll be able to talk soon. It's okay. You poor little thing."

Isn't it just funny and awful at the same time? I watch my littlest
battle her hands to make them do what she wants, and then when she gets
frustrated she just balls them into fists and starts cussing them out
something fierce, it's hilarious to watch but at the same time I feel so
bad for her!

Luckily she doesn't understand much verbal language yet, but in a few
months when she understands a lot and can't say anything, she's going to
be *so* frustrated!

Interpreting a baby's cry is a big help at times, you know what they're
crying about, but it's a bit of a pain when decide to change something
about a cry for something suddenly, you go through the whole business
of figureing out what they're trying say, again! Then it's not only
frustrating for then, but for you as well. I'm lucky Joshua's usually
a very content little boy (although he's not that little any more!) so
it's not difficult to try to figure out what his problem is -
1 check the nappy
2 is he hungry
3 if all else fails, play a little then put him down and leave the room
he'll grizzle for a while then fall asleep in about 30 sec if he's tired.

--
Melinda
http://cust.idl.com.au/athol

Another title for my reading list...

Deirdre

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 23:36:17 GMT, (Lee S.
Billings) wrote:

In article ,
says...

Exactly. And when you have more than one cultural/linguistic 'filter'
through which to view the world, you become aware of the existence of
filters, and how they 'color' things differently, depending on which
you're looking through at the moment.

Gives you a grasp of what I think of as cultural relativity.

Janet Kagan's "HellSpark" is all about this! Well, actually the cultural stuff
is background for a murder mystery that's wrapped around a first-contact story,
and there's another subplot about what constitutes sentience. Lots of meat for
one little book!

Celine

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:46:22 -0700, vj wrote:

AND, it's considered a "foreign language" in the colleges here, so
that's what Johnny is using to satisfy his foreign language
requirement. most of my family is TOTALLY foreign language
challenged.

I haven't been tested, but during one of my college stints, it was
suspected that I had a learning disability that would contribute to my
inability to learn a foreign language. Now, I have some 'cognitive
disruptions' as the result of what may or may not have been a stroke
that I did or didn't have about 18 months ago. The Disable Student
Services Office actually suggested that I try ASL to meet my foreign
language requirement.

It's kind of like a verbal dance. I'm really excited about learning
ASL.

jewitch