You know what? Crucify me, but it's true

See? Proof of just one person. But there are *many* more.

--
Kandice Seeber
www.lampwork.net

You heard from me, via the Ebay 'ask the seller a question' form, and you
responded that you would be happy to send me the beads I bought last fall.
It has been 14 days since that email and I still havent recieved the beads
nor any word from you that you intend to send them to me. My email address
is unmunged. I would like to hear from you.
Diana

starlia wrote:
I haven't left so many people in the lurch of I would hear from them.
I never said I didn't do anything wrong and I have tried to correct the
errors. I said that before but none of you will listen. Yes I'm
selling again and I don't have one mark against me since then so what
does that tell you? I also have a great customer base so I'm not going
anywhere.

As for Al, I met him on Saturday evening when I went out to dinner with
a group of folks.

Right - and with no expectation of anything in return. Kalera gave of her
kind heart, and her money to help out someone who she thought was in need of
help. Starlia has absolutely no remorse for what she's doing, based on her
responses here and everywhere else, and based on the way she's handled her
business situation.

She just doesn't get it, and that really makes me mad.

--
Kandice Seeber
www.lampwork.net

~ Holy crap! The idea that Starlia left so many people in the lurch,
and you were kind and generous enough to cover for her really ticks me
off in light of the fact that she's now back selling beads again as if
nothing ever happened. It's unfathomable why she thinks she hasn't
done anything wrong.
~~~~~~~
Basically, you bailed out Starlia's business with your own hard-earned
time and art, which equals money.

No... it just hurts when people are disappointed. It had nothing to do
with Starlia beyond the hope that it would make it easier for her to get
the negs cleared up when she came back.

Dr. Sooz wrote:
~ Holy crap! The idea that Starlia left so many people in the lurch,
and you were kind and generous enough to cover for her really ticks me
off in light of the fact that she's now back selling beads again as if
nothing ever happened. It's unfathomable why she thinks she hasn't
done anything wrong.
~~~~~~~
Basically, you bailed out Starlia's business with your own hard-earned
time and art, which equals money.


--
-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

YES Fiddy, very well said! It's important that people think well of
lampworkers and of doing business online, or we all suffer.

Fiddy wrote:

Not to mention that something (or someone) who tarnishes the industry in
which others are earning their living affects the industry, and that
tarnishes those who were *not* misbehaving. Tsk.


--
-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

~ Right - and with no expectation of anything in return. Kalera gave
of her kind heart, and her money to help out someone who she thought
was in need of help.
~~~~~~~~
Want to bet that Starlia hasn't thanked Kalera? (Any takers?) Though
that is NOT why Kalera did it, and Kalera doesn't need the thank you;
she was just trying to do what was right.

starlia wrote:
Oh really? When Sooz said that Marissa killed her bird not too long
ago because she starved it to death was okay? Whatever.


No, it was not okay. Sooz was called on that by several (many?) people
including myself. She took the responses to that comment like an adult
and has admitted it was wrong to have made them. There is also a
difference between making an admittedly cruel statement that you believe
is fact and deliberately taunting someone in their grief. Those are two
totally different things, both cruel and unnecessary to have said
publicly, but different actions.

Can you please be the adult you are and take a step back; see that this
did not start as attacks on you personally but rather as commentary and
suggestions on your work and your business practices... and that your
responses and subsequent actions turned this nasty and personal?

You could gain help and support here even now if you were honest with
YOURSELF first and saw that there is such a thing as constructive
criticism.

Hell, what do I know? It probably has gone too far now even for that.

I wish you well.



--
Polly
--
don't spook my groove...
--

The lampwork community is, indeed, must broader than this place.
However, the lampworking community is not as large as many people
believe it is, and it's far more tightly-knit. It is not only on RCB
that people see and question your behavior. I have never brought you up
to non-RCB people... but nonetheless I've heard others talk about you.
At ISGB meetings. Your customers talk. Your actions speak for themselves
and create a reputation for you, completely independent of me or anyone
on RCB.

starlia wrote:
Su sorry you feel that way. They are your feelings. As far as the
entire lampwork community goes, it's much, much broader than this place.


--
-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

And lots of people that don't post read here - and they tell their
friends. Behavior here is very public behavior.

MonaLS - Hayward, CA

This is really a reply to everyone. I am 60 years old and have always
been a professional. I am so upset at the attacks by so many in the
lampworking community. I do business with some of you and I am
questioning if I should continue. People have problems and sometimes
it may take time to straighten them all out but none of you know
Starlia personally, I DO. If it weren't for her I would be sitting in
my house all the time because I am handicapped and can't drive. She is
kind and always considerate. She makes sure I get where I need to go
and worries about me when I am sick and in the hospital like last week.
If she had financial problems and couldn't handle something there was
a reason. Unless this personallty affected you don't drag her name
through the mud. I never look at other peoples beads because I'm to
busy with my own, but I am afraid to put beads up for sale that I might
step on someone's feelings. There is not a color combination or style
that has not been made by someone at some time. My sister was a
lampworker before most of you ever thought of being one. She
lampworked over 25 years ago. She has taught me to make a rose that I
am afraid to put up for sale because someone might say OH, SHE COPPIED
ME. This industry should try to spend their time trying to make it
easier and better with education, not tearing someone down. Starlia
has feelings and this has been horrible for her. I will always stand
by her as I actually KNOW HER PERSONALLY. Margie Wells
(Victoriantreasures2)

I definitely did not want a thank-you; I never intended for Starlia to
know, at all, ever. I asked her customers not to tell her when she
contacted them to set things right, as I *assumed* would inevitably happen.

Dr. Sooz wrote:

Want to bet that Starlia hasn't thanked Kalera? (Any takers?) Though
that is NOT why Kalera did it, and Kalera doesn't need the thank you;
she was just trying to do what was right.


--
-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com