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what do you think of this advice about soldering iron tips?



 
 
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Old June 13th 06, 07:03 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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i found this on the ERSA website...

apparently it's not for stained glass production, but general info for
all soldering irons...

i've always been told to NEVER use flux core solder...but i think that
only refers to glass work..
does this info help to maintain the quality of your soldering iron's
tip?

what do you think?

there's a picture on their website as well:
http://www.sell-it-easy.de/shop_e/qu... =386826c80777

Provided that the ERSADUR soldering tips are properly cared for, tip
life can be extended. The following steps should be taken: ERSADUR tips
should always be coated with solder. Without this coat, they become
passive and will no longer accept solder. In this case, the tip can be
reactivated with flux and solder. To do this, wrap flux core solder
around the soldering tip and heat the iron. In addition to this, the
hot tip should be cleaned regularly with a moist sponge. Spare sponges
are available in specialized trade.



arlene

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Old June 13th 06, 05:38 PM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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Soldering iron tips should be kept cleaned and tinned. Regularly
wiping them off with a wet sponge or damp cloth will keep them clean.
Although some recommend against it, we routinely clean our tips by
dipping them into liquid flux while we're working.

When you finish soldering, clean the tip, then coat it with solder.
Doing this instead of just turning off the iron will extend the life of
your tips.

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Old June 13th 06, 09:04 PM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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wrote in message
ups.com...
i found this on the ERSA website...

apparently it's not for stained glass production, but general info for
all soldering irons...

i've always been told to NEVER use flux core solder...but i think that
only refers to glass work..
does this info help to maintain the quality of your soldering iron's
tip?

what do you think?



Flux, or worse yet rosin core solder is nasty stuff and should be
avoided. We use the mildest water soluble flux we can get. Unless your tip
is solid copper, it's only thinly plated. NEVER use anything caustic on it.
Once the plating is corroded the tip is garbage. Despite what any
manufacturer tells you, most original tips will never need to be replaced.
The iron will be dead before the tip goes. IMHO


--
JK Sinrod
www.sinrodstudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories


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Old June 13th 06, 09:22 PM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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"JK@work" wrote in message
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Despite what any
manufacturer tells you, most original tips will never need to be replaced.
The iron will be dead before the tip goes. IMHO


Unless, of course, it is a 900F tip, then all bets are off. ;)


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Old June 13th 06, 11:16 PM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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Moonraker wrote:
"JK@work" wrote in message
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Despite what any
manufacturer tells you, most original tips will never need to be replaced.
The iron will be dead before the tip goes. IMHO


Unless, of course, it is a 900F tip, then all bets are off. ;)


If used daily, a 900 Weller tip will only last a few months.
Regularly replacing them is a small price to pay for the huge time
savings. I figure an 800 tip solders at twice the speed of a 700, and a
900 at twice that speed. Some artisans don't care how long a job takes
- others like to expedite the work to accelerate the income.

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Old June 13th 06, 11:18 PM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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" Flux, or worse yet rosin core solder is nasty stuff and should be
avoided." --
JK Sinrod
www.sinrodstudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories


I clean and cool the tips with a dip of rosin and solder. Been doing
over 20 years, I've seen no problems. Rosin was a common stained glass
flux. A number of windows (100+years old) I've restored still had
rosin residue between the leads, with no bad effect. The problem with
rosin, as I see it, is that it is hard to clean and a bit messy to work
with.

Vic

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Old June 14th 06, 03:02 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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ya and I s'pose you can solder 24 inches in two seconds. an 800 degree
tip won't let you solder twice as fast anymore than a 900 will allow
you to solder twice as fast as an 800. aren't you s'posed to be packing
a cargo ship with a couple hundred cases of glass?

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Moonraker wrote:
"JK@work" wrote in message
news:LTEjg.15191$OQ2.5599@trndny08...
Despite what any
manufacturer tells you, most original tips will never need to be replaced.
The iron will be dead before the tip goes. IMHO


Unless, of course, it is a 900F tip, then all bets are off. ;)


If used daily, a 900 Weller tip will only last a few months.
Regularly replacing them is a small price to pay for the huge time
savings. I figure an 800 tip solders at twice the speed of a 700, and a
900 at twice that speed. Some artisans don't care how long a job takes
- others like to expedite the work to accelerate the income.


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Old June 14th 06, 04:23 PM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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wrote in message
oups.com...

I figure an 800 tip solders at twice the speed of a 700, and a
900 at twice that speed.


Adapted from Yogi Berra's First Law of Thermodynamics.

Brady, do you actually believe the **** you spew? Or do you just get off
on getting your balls busted?



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Old June 15th 06, 02:42 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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You got it started when you said that an 800 tip would solder twice as
fast as a 700. You can't prove that in the least. So now I s'pose that
when you are soldering 12" a second with that 700 degree tip on that
Weller that you say you don't use or promote and then you put the 800
in there...well now, you're going to solder 24" in a second. Dunno
Dennis....if it looks like smoke and smells fishy....

wrote:

Are you naive enough to believe a 700 tip can do the job as quickly as
an 800 or 900 - or are you just incapable of learning to solder at
higher speed?

Dennis Brady

Victorian Art Glass -
http://www.victorianartglass.biz
DeBrady Glass - http://debrady.com
Glass Campus - http://glasscampus.com


 




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