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Query about glass cutting
Mr.McSpanky wrote:
I am an owner builder and as such have glass needs for my windows. If I have a large piece of glass is it feasible to cut that glass down in size and use it for a windows? What is an owner builder? As for the rest of your post. As a builder I doubt that you should even worry about what a glass shop would charge you to cut your own glass. It would be minimal. Compared to the cost of just having them do it...have them do it. They'll get it right, or at least should. Besides, what better way to build a relationship with another business....what with you being an owner builder. Andy |
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Query about glass cutting
"Mr.McSpanky" Mr.McSpanky@houseof-MrHanky wrote in message ... I am an owner builder and as such have glass needs for my windows. If I have a large piece of glass is it feasible to cut that glass down in size and use it for a windows? Would this be cheaper than outright purchase of glass precut to the size required? I am assuming that pretty much any qualified glazier could do this (if of course it is doable and worthwhile)? I have the opportunity to get all the glass I need FOR FREE so this information would be good to know. This was the only glass newsgroup I could find. I tried to call glaziers from the yellow pages but all I got was the runaround. It seems if you aren't ordering a broken window to be fixed or something similar then you are wasting their time. Any of these companies that would have put me through to someone in the know would have most likely had all of the business when it happens Well, as an "owner builder" I'm sure you are familiar with the scenario where the home owner wants you to come hang a door for him (that he got for free somewhere) and install the lockset and hinges (which he already has), leaving you with no place to make any profit other than selling your few hours of labor. So, this FREE glass? Why is it free? Scrap from some other glazier, seconds from a manufacturer? My experience is that if something is free, the donor is getting exactly what it is worth. If it was first quality goods, they would be selling it. Or, you are stealing it? So any glazier that would take this on is nutz.....why work with second-quality/scrap (from an unknown source) with no mark-up in it, assume the liability for the glass being cut incorrectly or breakage, just to accomodate some cheapskate who wouldn't do business with them in the first place? What you are asking for is a nuisance for any business. Next time you want your oil changed, take the shop your own oil you bought on sale and a filter. See how far you get. |
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Query about glass cutting
"Mr.McSpanky" Mr.McSpanky@houseof-MrHanky wrote in message ... I am an owner builder and as such have glass needs for my windows. If I have a large piece of glass is it feasible to cut that glass down in size and use it for a windows? Would this be cheaper than outright purchase of glass precut to the size required? I am assuming that pretty much any qualified glazier could do this (if of course it is doable and worthwhile)? I have the opportunity to get all the glass I need FOR FREE so this information would be good to know. This was the only glass newsgroup I could find. I tried to call glaziers from the yellow pages but all I got was the runaround. It seems if you aren't ordering a broken window to be fixed or something similar then you are wasting their time. Any of these companies that would have put me through to someone in the know would have most likely had all of the business when it happens Yes with a few exceptions, glass can be cut to size. I'm guessing you already knew that? The issue here is labor, which may be more than the free glass is worth if it involves, travel, cleaning, workspace, etc. For the life of me I can't imagine why you couldn't get this info from any of your local glaziers? I will cut anyones glass with the understanding that I'm not responsible for something going wrong. Really old window glass doesn't cut well. -- "Don't get me wrong... I'm SNARKY" JK Sinrod Sinrod Stained Glass Studios www.sinrodstudios.com Coney Island Memories www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories |
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Query about glass cutting
"Moonraker" wrote in message ... "Mr.McSpanky" Mr.McSpanky@houseof-MrHanky wrote in message ... I am an owner builder and as such have glass needs for my windows. Well, as an "owner builder" I'm sure you are familiar with the scenario where the home owner wants you to come hang a door for him (that he got for free somewhere) and install the lockset and hinges (which he already has), leaving you with no place to make any profit other than selling your few hours of labor. So, this FREE glass? Why is it free? Scrap from some other glazier, seconds from a manufacturer? My experience is that if something is free, the donor is getting exactly what it is worth. If it was first quality goods, they would be selling it. Or, you are stealing it? So any glazier that would take this on is nutz.....why work with second-quality/scrap (from an unknown source) For the right price I'd cut glass in Seberia......... naked. We alll have our price. - "Don't get me wrong... I'm SNARKY" JK Sinrod Sinrod Stained Glass Studios www.sinrodstudios.com Coney Island Memories www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories |
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Query about glass cutting
Anyone here think about if he has a bunch of tempered? That does not cut. m
"Glassman" wrote in message ... "Mr.McSpanky" Mr.McSpanky@houseof-MrHanky wrote in message ... I am an owner builder and as such have glass needs for my windows. If I have a large piece of glass is it feasible to cut that glass down in size and use it for a windows? Would this be cheaper than outright purchase of glass precut to the size required? I am assuming that pretty much any qualified glazier could do this (if of course it is doable and worthwhile)? I have the opportunity to get all the glass I need FOR FREE so this information would be good to know. This was the only glass newsgroup I could find. I tried to call glaziers from the yellow pages but all I got was the runaround. It seems if you aren't ordering a broken window to be fixed or something similar then you are wasting their time. Any of these companies that would have put me through to someone in the know would have most likely had all of the business when it happens Yes with a few exceptions, glass can be cut to size. I'm guessing you already knew that? The issue here is labor, which may be more than the free glass is worth if it involves, travel, cleaning, workspace, etc. For the life of me I can't imagine why you couldn't get this info from any of your local glaziers? I will cut anyones glass with the understanding that I'm not responsible for something going wrong. Really old window glass doesn't cut well. -- "Don't get me wrong... I'm SNARKY" JK Sinrod Sinrod Stained Glass Studios www.sinrodstudios.com Coney Island Memories www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories |
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Query about glass cutting
"Glassman" wrote in message ... For the right price I'd cut glass in Seberia......... naked. We alll have our price. That's a mind-boggling thought. 'Prolly wouldn't draw much of a crowd, though. |
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Query about glass cutting
Mr.McSpanky wrote:
I am an owner builder and as such have glass needs for my windows. If I have a large piece of glass is it feasible to cut that glass down in size and use it for a windows? Would this be cheaper than outright purchase of glass precut to the size required? I am assuming that pretty much any qualified glazier could do this (if of course it is doable and worthwhile)? I have the opportunity to get all the glass I need FOR FREE so this information would be good to know. Sure it can be done but if I were you I would get out of building and be a glass wholesaler. OTOH, if by "all the glass I need" you mean just what you need for your windows then I would say it's not worth the time. My guess is that the labor is the major cost of glazing a window. DS is pretty cheap when bought in quantity. -- Jack bobo1148atxmissiondotcom http://www.glassartguild.com/gallery/jack_bowman |
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Query about glass cutting
"Moonraker" wrote in message ... snip place? What you are asking for is a nuisance for any business. Next time you want your oil changed, take the shop your own oil you bought on sale and a filter. See how far you get. well, the place i go does this. i provide the oil since they don't stock synthetics. they then give me a discount for doing so. |
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Query about glass cutting
For the right price I'd cut glass in Seberia......... naked. We alll have our price. please post pictures to help me decide on your contract |
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Query about glass cutting/my refusal of a like request
I would never consider getting someone out to cut glass that wasn't
cleaned and setup ready for their work and I certainly don't blame you for not wanting to do it considering your scenario. I understand my limitations as far as expertise and time go and will employ someone to make and install all of the windows. I had assumed that if I could provide the glass (good quality, large sheets, not stolen, and free) onsite then I might be able to save some money while still making it worth the while of the window maker/installer. Quite frankly, I have found that not many 'professional' types seem to be interested and I suspect that is mainly due to their abilities stretching as far as installing mass produced precut aluminum framed windows and anything else is beyond a lot of their abilities. That isn't a dig at glaziers in general as I know there are a lot of capable people out there they just don't seem to exist in SA. As it stands we are probably going to bring some guys out from the UK that have worked with us before. |
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