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But...but...but...isn't that heresy??!?
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What i dont understand is why spaghetti gains weight when placed in hot
water but we dont? Diana "Shona in NZ" wrote in message ... Oh, we understand Polly. I, for one, can hardly wait to hear the results of your's, Sherry's and Sharon's experimental outcomes :-) Shona who has never thought about how much weight spaghetti gains during the cooking process in NZ "Polly Esther" wrote in message link.net... Sorry. I can't help you with this scientific experiment. I am far too busy counting spaghetti strands with Sherry and Sharon. We have our priorities, you know. Polly "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in message ... I think you are not being able to tell a lot of diffenerce between clipping and not clipping because you are dealing with FQs, not "whole" yardage. So in essence you have 3 raw edges on each piece rather than two as you would on yardage. On yardage, each clip would include one selvedge edge and one raw cut edge; not so on the fats. Becky wrote in message ... Before someone else says it, yes, I did have too much time on my hands today! I am a dedicated pre-washer and have been interested in the threads about clipping corners to keep fabric from raveling (unraveling?) in the wash. Today I acquired 22 FQs and decided to make an experiment out of the washing process. Thesis: clipping the corners of fabric pieces will prevent horrible thread nests after washing. Methodology: I clipped the corners on half of the FQs and left the others whole. Where there were duplicates of fabrics (6 instances, 12 pieces in all) one of the pair was clipped and one left whole. Three of the unclipped FQs had arrived with edges cut with pinking shears. All FQs were washed at the same time (cold wash/cold rinse, with a Color Catcher) so that water level and detergent amount would be the same. All were dried, in the same load, for 20 minutes until mostly dry but not "hot". Results: Of 22 FQs, 8 raveled badly (defined as thread nest attaching several pieces of fabric together and in two cases winding the fabric into a knot); 4 raveled to some extent; 10 did not ravel at all. Of the badly raveled FQs, 4 had been clipped. Two of those had "twins" that had been left unclipped. In neither case was the unclipped piece more raveled than the clipped one. Of the three "pinked" FQs, one was among the 4 that had raveled to some extent. Conclusion: Clipping, in my laundry room anyway, does not seem to significantly reduce the amount of edge raveling of FQs in the washer and/or dryer. "Pinking" the edges may cause some slight reduction in raveling. Secondary observation: Weight of fabric did not seem to have significance. The 6 pieces that were noticeably heavier were evenly split between ravel and non-ravel. Of the 5 "Debbie Mumm" fabrics, 2 raveled badly and the other 3 not at all. Suggestion for further study: Thread count may have some relevance, with higher count fabrics raveling less. Next time I get a large enough batch of FQs, I will attempt another experiment. -- Anne in CA "It's not having what you want; it's wanting what you've got." -- Sheryl Crow http://home.covad.net/~arudolph/annes.htm remove NOSPAM to reply |
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On Wed, 19 May 2004 11:13:16 +1200, "Shona in NZ"
wrote: Hey Jo, I conduct scientific experiments almost daily, do I get chocolate? Dark please :-) Shona who works in science and thought she might practice a little begging in NZ Let me put in a qualifying adjective: if you conduct "quilty/patchwork" experiments. Now, do you do that in your lab? If so, the chocolate will be forthcoming. I hope you like the Russian stuff. -- Jo in Scotland |
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Are you sure???Maybe my super hot showers are causing my weight gain!!!!!1
Gen "Diana Curtis" wrote in message news What i dont understand is why spaghetti gains weight when placed in hot water but we dont? Diana "Shona in NZ" wrote in message ... Oh, we understand Polly. I, for one, can hardly wait to hear the results of your's, Sherry's and Sharon's experimental outcomes :-) Shona who has never thought about how much weight spaghetti gains during the cooking process in NZ "Polly Esther" wrote in message link.net... Sorry. I can't help you with this scientific experiment. I am far too busy counting spaghetti strands with Sherry and Sharon. We have our priorities, you know. Polly "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in message ... I think you are not being able to tell a lot of diffenerce between clipping and not clipping because you are dealing with FQs, not "whole" yardage. So in essence you have 3 raw edges on each piece rather than two as you would on yardage. On yardage, each clip would include one selvedge edge and one raw cut edge; not so on the fats. Becky wrote in message ... Before someone else says it, yes, I did have too much time on my hands today! I am a dedicated pre-washer and have been interested in the threads about clipping corners to keep fabric from raveling (unraveling?) in the wash. Today I acquired 22 FQs and decided to make an experiment out of the washing process. Thesis: clipping the corners of fabric pieces will prevent horrible thread nests after washing. Methodology: I clipped the corners on half of the FQs and left the others whole. Where there were duplicates of fabrics (6 instances, 12 pieces in all) one of the pair was clipped and one left whole. Three of the unclipped FQs had arrived with edges cut with pinking shears. All FQs were washed at the same time (cold wash/cold rinse, with a Color Catcher) so that water level and detergent amount would be the same. All were dried, in the same load, for 20 minutes until mostly dry but not "hot". Results: Of 22 FQs, 8 raveled badly (defined as thread nest attaching several pieces of fabric together and in two cases winding the fabric into a knot); 4 raveled to some extent; 10 did not ravel at all. Of the badly raveled FQs, 4 had been clipped. Two of those had "twins" that had been left unclipped. In neither case was the unclipped piece more raveled than the clipped one. Of the three "pinked" FQs, one was among the 4 that had raveled to some extent. Conclusion: Clipping, in my laundry room anyway, does not seem to significantly reduce the amount of edge raveling of FQs in the washer and/or dryer. "Pinking" the edges may cause some slight reduction in raveling. Secondary observation: Weight of fabric did not seem to have significance. The 6 pieces that were noticeably heavier were evenly split between ravel and non-ravel. Of the 5 "Debbie Mumm" fabrics, 2 raveled badly and the other 3 not at all. Suggestion for further study: Thread count may have some relevance, with higher count fabrics raveling less. Next time I get a large enough batch of FQs, I will attempt another experiment. -- Anne in CA "It's not having what you want; it's wanting what you've got." -- Sheryl Crow http://home.covad.net/~arudolph/annes.htm remove NOSPAM to reply |
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For long pieces, such as for quilt backs and such, try opening the fabric and
fan folding it in 18-20 inch "pleats". Then safety pin the selvedges together before putting it in the washer. This really helps keep the length from twisting and such. Pati, in Phx. Shirley Ellen wrote: I only dry very large pieces of fabric in the dryer. Anything a yard or less I hang to almost dry and then iron dry the rest of the way. For FQ's I don't even bother to hang.. they dry fairly quickly using a dry iron on the cotton setting. I did find on a piece of fabric that was 4 yards that if I did a large clip on the corners it helped. That wouldn't be a good idea on a FQ though cause you'd lose a significant amount of the piece. Shirley -- My Quilt Site http://ca.geocities.com/meadow1951/index.html Inspiring Thoughts http://members.tripod.com/inspiring-thoughts/index.html wrote in message ... Before someone else says it, yes, I did have too much time on my hands today! I am a dedicated pre-washer and have been interested in the threads about clipping corners to keep fabric from raveling (unraveling?) in the wash. Today I acquired 22 FQs and decided to make an experiment out of the washing process. Thesis: clipping the corners of fabric pieces will prevent horrible thread nests after washing. Methodology: I clipped the corners on half of the FQs and left the others whole. Where there were duplicates of fabrics (6 instances, 12 pieces in all) one of the pair was clipped and one left whole. Three of the unclipped FQs had arrived with edges cut with pinking shears. All FQs were washed at the same time (cold wash/cold rinse, with a Color Catcher) so that water level and detergent amount would be the same. All were dried, in the same load, for 20 minutes until mostly dry but not "hot". Results: Of 22 FQs, 8 raveled badly (defined as thread nest attaching several pieces of fabric together and in two cases winding the fabric into a knot); 4 raveled to some extent; 10 did not ravel at all. Of the badly raveled FQs, 4 had been clipped. Two of those had "twins" that had been left unclipped. In neither case was the unclipped piece more raveled than the clipped one. Of the three "pinked" FQs, one was among the 4 that had raveled to some extent. Conclusion: Clipping, in my laundry room anyway, does not seem to significantly reduce the amount of edge raveling of FQs in the washer and/or dryer. "Pinking" the edges may cause some slight reduction in raveling. Secondary observation: Weight of fabric did not seem to have significance. The 6 pieces that were noticeably heavier were evenly split between ravel and non-ravel. Of the 5 "Debbie Mumm" fabrics, 2 raveled badly and the other 3 not at all. Suggestion for further study: Thread count may have some relevance, with higher count fabrics raveling less. Next time I get a large enough batch of FQs, I will attempt another experiment. -- Anne in CA "It's not having what you want; it's wanting what you've got." -- Sheryl Crow http://home.covad.net/~arudolph/annes.htm remove NOSPAM to reply |
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I saw this tip in a recent magazine - I think it was QNM - and gave it a
try. It really worked! No twisting or bunching at all, plus it dried in the dryer first time through. Usually, I have to untwist the entire length and put in the dryer again. -- Wendy http://griffinsflight.com/Quilting/quilt1.htm De-Fang email address to reply "Pati Cook" wrote in message ... For long pieces, such as for quilt backs and such, try opening the fabric and fan folding it in 18-20 inch "pleats". Then safety pin the selvedges together before putting it in the washer. This really helps keep the length from twisting and such. Pati, in Phx. Shirley Ellen wrote: I only dry very large pieces of fabric in the dryer. Anything a yard or less I hang to almost dry and then iron dry the rest of the way. For FQ's I don't even bother to hang.. they dry fairly quickly using a dry iron on the cotton setting. I did find on a piece of fabric that was 4 yards that if I did a large clip on the corners it helped. That wouldn't be a good idea on a FQ though cause you'd lose a significant amount of the piece. Shirley -- My Quilt Site http://ca.geocities.com/meadow1951/index.html Inspiring Thoughts http://members.tripod.com/inspiring-thoughts/index.html wrote in message ... Before someone else says it, yes, I did have too much time on my hands today! I am a dedicated pre-washer and have been interested in the threads about clipping corners to keep fabric from raveling (unraveling?) in the wash. Today I acquired 22 FQs and decided to make an experiment out of the washing process. Thesis: clipping the corners of fabric pieces will prevent horrible thread nests after washing. Methodology: I clipped the corners on half of the FQs and left the others whole. Where there were duplicates of fabrics (6 instances, 12 pieces in all) one of the pair was clipped and one left whole. Three of the unclipped FQs had arrived with edges cut with pinking shears. All FQs were washed at the same time (cold wash/cold rinse, with a Color Catcher) so that water level and detergent amount would be the same. All were dried, in the same load, for 20 minutes until mostly dry but not "hot". Results: Of 22 FQs, 8 raveled badly (defined as thread nest attaching several pieces of fabric together and in two cases winding the fabric into a knot); 4 raveled to some extent; 10 did not ravel at all. Of the badly raveled FQs, 4 had been clipped. Two of those had "twins" that had been left unclipped. In neither case was the unclipped piece more raveled than the clipped one. Of the three "pinked" FQs, one was among the 4 that had raveled to some extent. Conclusion: Clipping, in my laundry room anyway, does not seem to significantly reduce the amount of edge raveling of FQs in the washer and/or dryer. "Pinking" the edges may cause some slight reduction in raveling. Secondary observation: Weight of fabric did not seem to have significance. The 6 pieces that were noticeably heavier were evenly split between ravel and non-ravel. Of the 5 "Debbie Mumm" fabrics, 2 raveled badly and the other 3 not at all. Suggestion for further study: Thread count may have some relevance, with higher count fabrics raveling less. Next time I get a large enough batch of FQs, I will attempt another experiment. -- Anne in CA "It's not having what you want; it's wanting what you've got." -- Sheryl Crow http://home.covad.net/~arudolph/annes.htm remove NOSPAM to reply |
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Maybe I should take more cold baths.... giggle
-- Mary http://community.webshots.com/user/mardor1948 "Don/Gen" wrote in message ... Are you sure???Maybe my super hot showers are causing my weight gain!!!!!1 Gen "Diana Curtis" wrote in message news What i dont understand is why spaghetti gains weight when placed in hot water but we dont? Diana "Shona in NZ" wrote in message ... Oh, we understand Polly. I, for one, can hardly wait to hear the results of your's, Sherry's and Sharon's experimental outcomes :-) Shona who has never thought about how much weight spaghetti gains during the cooking process in NZ "Polly Esther" wrote in message link.net... Sorry. I can't help you with this scientific experiment. I am far too busy counting spaghetti strands with Sherry and Sharon. We have our priorities, you know. Polly "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in message ... I think you are not being able to tell a lot of diffenerce between clipping and not clipping because you are dealing with FQs, not "whole" yardage. So in essence you have 3 raw edges on each piece rather than two as you would on yardage. On yardage, each clip would include one selvedge edge and one raw cut edge; not so on the fats. Becky wrote in message ... Before someone else says it, yes, I did have too much time on my hands today! I am a dedicated pre-washer and have been interested in the threads about clipping corners to keep fabric from raveling (unraveling?) in the wash. Today I acquired 22 FQs and decided to make an experiment out of the washing process. Thesis: clipping the corners of fabric pieces will prevent horrible thread nests after washing. Methodology: I clipped the corners on half of the FQs and left the others whole. Where there were duplicates of fabrics (6 instances, 12 pieces in all) one of the pair was clipped and one left whole. Three of the unclipped FQs had arrived with edges cut with pinking shears. All FQs were washed at the same time (cold wash/cold rinse, with a Color Catcher) so that water level and detergent amount would be the same. All were dried, in the same load, for 20 minutes until mostly dry but not "hot". Results: Of 22 FQs, 8 raveled badly (defined as thread nest attaching several pieces of fabric together and in two cases winding the fabric into a knot); 4 raveled to some extent; 10 did not ravel at all. Of the badly raveled FQs, 4 had been clipped. Two of those had "twins" that had been left unclipped. In neither case was the unclipped piece more raveled than the clipped one. Of the three "pinked" FQs, one was among the 4 that had raveled to some extent. Conclusion: Clipping, in my laundry room anyway, does not seem to significantly reduce the amount of edge raveling of FQs in the washer and/or dryer. "Pinking" the edges may cause some slight reduction in raveling. Secondary observation: Weight of fabric did not seem to have significance. The 6 pieces that were noticeably heavier were evenly split between ravel and non-ravel. Of the 5 "Debbie Mumm" fabrics, 2 raveled badly and the other 3 not at all. Suggestion for further study: Thread count may have some relevance, with higher count fabrics raveling less. Next time I get a large enough batch of FQs, I will attempt another experiment. -- Anne in CA "It's not having what you want; it's wanting what you've got." -- Sheryl Crow http://home.covad.net/~arudolph/annes.htm remove NOSPAM to reply |
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Hmmm, wellll, ummmm, I do factoral designed experiments outside that
sometimes look like a natural patchwork. And if I am (un)lucky a cow will 'embellish' my patchwork snorfle Shona who has never had the Russian stuff in NZ "Johanna Gibson" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 May 2004 11:13:16 +1200, "Shona in NZ" wrote: Hey Jo, I conduct scientific experiments almost daily, do I get chocolate? Dark please :-) Shona who works in science and thought she might practice a little begging in NZ Let me put in a qualifying adjective: if you conduct "quilty/patchwork" experiments. Now, do you do that in your lab? If so, the chocolate will be forthcoming. I hope you like the Russian stuff. -- Jo in Scotland |
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That's a great idea!
Thanks Pati. It's the 'auto pleating and twisting that bothers me most about fabric washing. Some of those creases just never seem to come out. .. In article , Pati Cook writes For long pieces, such as for quilt backs and such, try opening the fabric and fan folding it in 18-20 inch "pleats". Then safety pin the selvedges together before putting it in the washer. This really helps keep the length from twisting and such. Pati, in Phx. -- Best Regards pat on the hill |
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What I want to know - when you have finishing experimenting of course -
is whether, if you leave the cooked spaghetti on a plate to dry again, it goes back to its original dry weight? .. In article , Shona in NZ writes Oh, we understand Polly. I, for one, can hardly wait to hear the results of your's, Sherry's and Sharon's experimental outcomes :-) Shona who has never thought about how much weight spaghetti gains during the cooking process in NZ "Polly Esther" wrote in message hlink.net... Sorry. I can't help you with this scientific experiment. I am far too busy counting spaghetti strands with Sherry and Sharon. We have our priorities, you know. Polly -- Best Regards pat on the hill |
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