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What an opportune time for this thread for me. One of the quilts that I am
hoping to make for the upcoming grandbabies is of alphabet blocks and now I have an idea of how to put them together. Thanks ladies. Love in Stitches, Coleen "nzl*" wrote in message ... x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x that works!! jeanne http://community.webshots.com/user/nzlstar real reply is san-fran at ihug dot co dot nz "Mystified One" wrote... When doing alphabet blocks, I can't make the set of 26 come out even. No matter how hard I try, I end up with one left or one blank space. I even tried figuring out how to make the blocks with alternating blocks, no luck. I've already got the ABC blocks, so I can't combine two at the end. They're redwork 8-inch blocks that I bought on ebay. Doing alternating blocks that are red and white would be ideal, I think, but I can't get them to come out even. I'm curious how anyone else has done these, if they have. If not, how would you make them come out even? |
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My aunt's had a Y and Z block together, which made hers 25 blocks instead of
26. Made the quilt easier to do, although I think she wins the contest on slowest quilt. It was her baby quilt that my grandmother had started, and she was nearing 70 when it was completed. "Dr. Quilter" wrote in message ... funny, in spanish there are 27 letters so I guess you could do a 9x3 (though that would be long and skinny). 26 is divisible by 2 and by 13, but that would be even worse... I don't think it is divisible by anything else that is useful, uh? that's the problem... I've seen it done with empty spaces. I have collected theme fabrics to do one of these or more, but haven't tried it yet (the lack of symmetry troubles me!) ) Mystified One wrote: When doing alphabet blocks, I can't make the set of 26 come out even. No matter how hard I try, I end up with one left or one blank space. I even tried figuring out how to make the blocks with alternating blocks, no luck. I've already got the ABC blocks, so I can't combine two at the end. They're redwork 8-inch blocks that I bought on ebay. Doing alternating blocks that are red and white would be ideal, I think, but I can't get them to come out even. I'm curious how anyone else has done these, if they have. If not, how would you make them come out even? -- Dr. Quilter Ambassador of Extraordinary Aliens http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali (take the dog out before replying) |
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 03:08:18 GMT, " Ellison"
wrote: Howdy! Ah, yes, the rr-- errrrre! I love it! Quilting without errrrrre, Ragmop/Sandy "nzl*" wrote in message ... http://spanish.allinfo-about.com/pro...-alphabet.html -- http://community.webshots.com/user/nzlstar real reply is san-fran at ihug dot co dot nz "Dr. Quilter" wrote in message ... we don't count ll and ch as letters... I think. I don't remember, but both Fer and I came up with 27: a b c d e f g h i j k l m n ñ o p q r s t u v w x y z. but I am not sure. I wrote it down and had 26, then had to go back and add the ñ so now I am confused. Cc to DH for confirmation.. .) Been living here way too long! my plan is to make a bilingual ABC quilt. maybe reversible. I am collecting fabrics that can be used for two letters. ej. apple fabric would be the A in english and the M in spanish for Manzana. Well if you ever find fabric with hedgehogs on it, let me know. It's one of the few words with start with the letter "yo" in Russian. Russian has 33 "letters" but 2 of those are more like pronunciation marks, which influence the letter they are placed after - "hard sign" and "soft sign"... you pronounce the letter accordingly. So there are no pictures or words for those two letters because they are never at the beginning of a word. That leaves 31 letters to find fabric for! On a note of curiosity - the "A is for apple" starts the English alphabet, but in Russian, "Ya is for yabloko" (apple) would end the alphabet because ya is the last letter. -- Jo in Scotland |
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Now that, Jo, is one of the fascinating sort of fact that I will carry
around in my mind to the end of my days!! I just love that kind of knowledge. You can't believe what a little buzz I have going having learned that. And, I'm not being in the least sarcastic. I shall tell my little maths coaching class on Monday; they need little snippets to give one-up on their smarter classmates!! .. In article , Johanna Gibson writes snipped On a note of curiosity - the "A is for apple" starts the English alphabet, but in Russian, "Ya is for yabloko" (apple) would end the alphabet because ya is the last letter. -- Jo in Scotland -- Best Regards pat on the hill |
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=12 510
Does this help? NAYY! -- Wendy http://griffinsflight.com/Quilting/quilt1.htm de-fang email address to reply "Johanna Gibson" wrote in message news On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 03:08:18 GMT, " Ellison" wrote: Howdy! Ah, yes, the rr-- errrrre! I love it! Quilting without errrrrre, Ragmop/Sandy "nzl*" wrote in message ... http://spanish.allinfo-about.com/pro...-alphabet.html -- http://community.webshots.com/user/nzlstar real reply is san-fran at ihug dot co dot nz "Dr. Quilter" wrote in message ... we don't count ll and ch as letters... I think. I don't remember, but both Fer and I came up with 27: a b c d e f g h i j k l m n ñ o p q r s t u v w x y z. but I am not sure. I wrote it down and had 26, then had to go back and add the ñ so now I am confused. Cc to DH for confirmation.. .) Been living here way too long! my plan is to make a bilingual ABC quilt. maybe reversible. I am collecting fabrics that can be used for two letters. ej. apple fabric would be the A in english and the M in spanish for Manzana. Well if you ever find fabric with hedgehogs on it, let me know. It's one of the few words with start with the letter "yo" in Russian. Russian has 33 "letters" but 2 of those are more like pronunciation marks, which influence the letter they are placed after - "hard sign" and "soft sign"... you pronounce the letter accordingly. So there are no pictures or words for those two letters because they are never at the beginning of a word. That leaves 31 letters to find fabric for! On a note of curiosity - the "A is for apple" starts the English alphabet, but in Russian, "Ya is for yabloko" (apple) would end the alphabet because ya is the last letter. -- Jo in Scotland |
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oh come on! where did they get that from? RR is NOT a letter!!! I was
doubtful about the ch and the ll, but rr??? no way!!! I mean, I could use it for a quilt, but never heard of it and definitely not what I was taught! nzl* wrote: http://spanish.allinfo-about.com/pro...-alphabet.html -- Dr. Quilter Ambassador of Extraordinary Aliens http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali (take the dog out before replying) |
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http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfabeto_espa%F1ol
El alfabeto castellano se compone de las 27 letras siguientes: The spanish alphabet is composed of the following 27 letters: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, Ñ, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, Z Tiene las 26 letras del alfabeto romano más la letra Ñ, que representa un sonido nasal palatal. Desde que la Ñ es un carácter separado y no una letra acentuada se alfabetiza detrás de la N. It has the 26 lettes of the roman alphabet plus the Ñ, that represents a nasal palatal sound. As Ñ is a different character and not an accentuated letter, it is placed after the N. Hay tres sonidos en castellano que están representados por dígrafos: ch, ll y rr. Tradicionalmente ch y ll estaban alfabetizados después c y l respectivamente. En 1994 la Real Academia Española decidió que no era así y que serían consideradas dos letras una detrás de la otra. There are 3 sounds in spanish that are represented by digraphs (sp?): ch, ll and rr. Traditionally, ch and ll were placed after C and L, respectively. In 1994 the Real Academia Española (who decides what is legit and not in the Spanish Language, I think there is no equivalent for English though I believe the Oxford dictionary would be a loose equivalent? What do the Brits say?) decided it was not so and that they would be considered two letters, one after the other! (translation into English is mine). I don't know what they've been teaching you guys but it needs some updating! ) Dr. Quilter wrote: we don't count ll and ch as letters... I think. I don't remember, but both Fer and I came up with 27: a b c d e f g h i j k l m n ñ o p q r s t u v w x y z. but I am not sure. I wrote it down and had 26, then had to go back and add the ñ so now I am confused. Cc to DH for confirmation.. .) Been living here way too long! my plan is to make a bilingual ABC quilt. maybe reversible. I am collecting fabrics that can be used for two letters. ej. apple fabric would be the A in english and the M in spanish for Manzana. Ellison wrote: Howdy! Aren't there 29 letters in the Spanish alphabet? ch, ll, ñ in addition to the standard English. Add something special to one more block to make 30 blocks. "Dr. Quilter" wrote in message ... funny, in spanish there are 27 letters so I guess you could do a 9x3 (though that would be long and skinny). 26 is divisible by 2 and by 13, but that would be even worse... I don't think it is divisible by anything else that is useful, uh? that's the problem... I've seen it done with empty spaces. I have collected theme fabrics to do one of these or more, but haven't tried it yet (the lack of symmetry troubles me!) ) Mystified One wrote: When doing alphabet blocks, I can't make the set of 26 come out even. No matter how hard I try, I end up with one left or one blank space. I even tried figuring out how to make the blocks with alternating blocks, no luck. I've already got the ABC blocks, so I can't combine two at the end. They're redwork 8-inch blocks that I bought on ebay. Doing alternating blocks that are red and white would be ideal, I think, but I can't get them to come out even. I'm curious how anyone else has done these, if they have. If not, how would you make them come out even? -- Dr. Quilter Ambassador of Extraordinary Aliens http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali (take the dog out before replying) -- Dr. Quilter Ambassador of Extraordinary Aliens http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali (take the dog out before replying) |
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Howdy!
Standard high school Spanish class in the USA, in the Castillian style. Something like this: http://www.internetpadre.com/spanish/spanish.html My teacher was a Mexican-American from south Texas (on the border); I still have to go with the way he said so. g The "rr" was included so that we'd learn to roll those "r"s. Ragmop/Sandy--finished a quilt, taking pics before sending it back to its owner -- I love Finished quilts! g edredón terminado (?) http://w4.systranlinks.com/trans?sys...s%2Findex.ivnu "Dr. Quilter" wrote in message ... http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfabeto_espa%F1ol El alfabeto castellano se compone de las 27 letras siguientes: The spanish alphabet is composed of the following 27 letters: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, Ñ, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, Z Tiene las 26 letras del alfabeto romano más la letra Ñ, que representa un sonido nasal palatal. Desde que la Ñ es un carácter separado y no una letra acentuada se alfabetiza detrás de la N. It has the 26 lettes of the roman alphabet plus the Ñ, that represents a nasal palatal sound. As Ñ is a different character and not an accentuated letter, it is placed after the N. Hay tres sonidos en castellano que están representados por dígrafos: ch, ll y rr. Tradicionalmente ch y ll estaban alfabetizados después c y l respectivamente. En 1994 la Real Academia Española decidió que no era así y que serían consideradas dos letras una detrás de la otra. There are 3 sounds in spanish that are represented by digraphs (sp?): ch, ll and rr. Traditionally, ch and ll were placed after C and L, respectively. In 1994 the Real Academia Española (who decides what is legit and not in the Spanish Language, I think there is no equivalent for English though I believe the Oxford dictionary would be a loose equivalent? What do the Brits say?) decided it was not so and that they would be considered two letters, one after the other! (translation into English is mine). I don't know what they've been teaching you guys but it needs some updating! ) Dr. Quilter wrote: we don't count ll and ch as letters... I think. I don't remember, but both Fer and I came up with 27: a b c d e f g h i j k l m n ñ o p q r s t u v w x y z. but I am not sure. I wrote it down and had 26, then had to go back and add the ñ so now I am confused. Cc to DH for confirmation.. .) Been living here way too long! my plan is to make a bilingual ABC quilt. maybe reversible. I am collecting fabrics that can be used for two letters. ej. apple fabric would be the A in english and the M in spanish for Manzana. Ellison wrote: Howdy! Aren't there 29 letters in the Spanish alphabet? ch, ll, ñ in addition to the standard English. Add something special to one more block to make 30 blocks. "Dr. Quilter" wrote in message ... funny, in spanish there are 27 letters so I guess you could do a 9x3 (though that would be long and skinny). 26 is divisible by 2 and by 13, but that would be even worse... I don't think it is divisible by anything else that is useful, uh? that's the problem... I've seen it done with empty spaces. I have collected theme fabrics to do one of these or more, but haven't tried it yet (the lack of symmetry troubles me!) ) Mystified One wrote: When doing alphabet blocks, I can't make the set of 26 come out even. No matter how hard I try, I end up with one left or one blank space. I even tried figuring out how to make the blocks with alternating blocks, no luck. I've already got the ABC blocks, so I can't combine two at the end. They're redwork 8-inch blocks that I bought on ebay. Doing alternating blocks that are red and white would be ideal, I think, but I can't get them to come out even. I'm curious how anyone else has done these, if they have. If not, how would you make them come out even? -- Dr. Quilter Ambassador of Extraordinary Aliens http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali (take the dog out before replying) -- Dr. Quilter Ambassador of Extraordinary Aliens http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali (take the dog out before replying) |
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Looks like you're both right:
"Traditionally, in the Spanish alphabet, ch, ll, rr and ñ are individual letters. In most dictionaries Ch follows C so that copia [copy] and cuchillo [knife] come before chaleco [vest]. The same follows for L and LL, n and ñ. This also happens with r and rr when they occur in the middle of words (as noted above, rr is spelled r when it begins a word.) In 1995 the Spanish alphabet was revised to eliminate most of the compound letters. Therefore, the Spanish alphabet has all the letters of the English alphabet except for the additional ñ. However, most dictionaries still adhere to the traditional letters. Many Latin American countries have not decided to follow Spain's lead in this matter. Also, these traditional letters are used when spelling aloud. Therefore it is important to know the original standard Spanish alphabet." (http://www.drlemon.net/Grammar/alphabet.html, and also Mrs. Bocolini, my Argentinian Spanish teacher. *grin*) -- Kathy A. (Woodland, CA) longarm machine quilting, Queen of Fabric Tramps http://www.kayneyquilting.com , remove the obvious to reply " Ellison" wrote in message m... Howdy! Standard high school Spanish class in the USA, in the Castillian style. Something like this: http://www.internetpadre.com/spanish/spanish.html My teacher was a Mexican-American from south Texas (on the border); I still have to go with the way he said so. g The "rr" was included so that we'd learn to roll those "r"s. Ragmop/Sandy--finished a quilt, taking pics before sending it back to its owner -- I love Finished quilts! g edredón terminado (?) http://w4.systranlinks.com/trans?sys...s%2Findex.ivnu "Dr. Quilter" wrote in message ... http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfabeto_espa%F1ol El alfabeto castellano se compone de las 27 letras siguientes: The spanish alphabet is composed of the following 27 letters: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, Ñ, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, Z Tiene las 26 letras del alfabeto romano más la letra Ñ, que representa un sonido nasal palatal. Desde que la Ñ es un carácter separado y no una letra acentuada se alfabetiza detrás de la N. It has the 26 lettes of the roman alphabet plus the Ñ, that represents a nasal palatal sound. As Ñ is a different character and not an accentuated letter, it is placed after the N. Hay tres sonidos en castellano que están representados por dígrafos: ch, ll y rr. Tradicionalmente ch y ll estaban alfabetizados después c y l respectivamente. En 1994 la Real Academia Española decidió que no era así y que serían consideradas dos letras una detrás de la otra. There are 3 sounds in spanish that are represented by digraphs (sp?): ch, ll and rr. Traditionally, ch and ll were placed after C and L, respectively. In 1994 the Real Academia Española (who decides what is legit and not in the Spanish Language, I think there is no equivalent for English though I believe the Oxford dictionary would be a loose equivalent? What do the Brits say?) decided it was not so and that they would be considered two letters, one after the other! (translation into English is mine). I don't know what they've been teaching you guys but it needs some updating! ) Dr. Quilter wrote: we don't count ll and ch as letters... I think. I don't remember, but both Fer and I came up with 27: a b c d e f g h i j k l m n ñ o p q r s t u v w x y z. but I am not sure. I wrote it down and had 26, then had to go back and add the ñ so now I am confused. Cc to DH for confirmation.. .) Been living here way too long! my plan is to make a bilingual ABC quilt. maybe reversible. I am collecting fabrics that can be used for two letters. ej. apple fabric would be the A in english and the M in spanish for Manzana. Ellison wrote: Howdy! Aren't there 29 letters in the Spanish alphabet? ch, ll, ñ in addition to the standard English. Add something special to one more block to make 30 blocks. "Dr. Quilter" wrote in message ... funny, in spanish there are 27 letters so I guess you could do a 9x3 (though that would be long and skinny). 26 is divisible by 2 and by 13, but that would be even worse... I don't think it is divisible by anything else that is useful, uh? that's the problem... I've seen it done with empty spaces. I have collected theme fabrics to do one of these or more, but haven't tried it yet (the lack of symmetry troubles me!) ) Mystified One wrote: When doing alphabet blocks, I can't make the set of 26 come out even. No matter how hard I try, I end up with one left or one blank space. I even tried figuring out how to make the blocks with alternating blocks, no luck. I've already got the ABC blocks, so I can't combine two at the end. They're redwork 8-inch blocks that I bought on ebay. Doing alternating blocks that are red and white would be ideal, I think, but I can't get them to come out even. I'm curious how anyone else has done these, if they have. If not, how would you make them come out even? -- Dr. Quilter Ambassador of Extraordinary Aliens http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali (take the dog out before replying) -- Dr. Quilter Ambassador of Extraordinary Aliens http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali (take the dog out before replying) |
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my plan is to make a bilingual ABC quilt. maybe reversible. I am collecting fabrics that can be used for two letters. ej. apple fabric would be the A in english and the M in spanish for Manzana. That sounds like a fantastically difficult puzzle - if you weren't careful you could end up trying to find a fabric motif for something that began with Q in English and X in Spanish. Well if you ever find fabric with hedgehogs on it, let me know. It's one of the few words with start with the letter "yo" in Russian. Russian has 33 "letters" but 2 of those are more like pronunciation marks, which influence the letter they are placed after - "hard sign" and "soft sign"... you pronounce the letter accordingly. So there are no pictures or words for those two letters because they are never at the beginning of a word. Same goes for soft-G (G with a tilde on top) in Turkish - pronounced like W after some vowels, Y after others, and for others it lengthens the previous vowel, but it never comes at the start of a word. (It got in the alphabet for historical/political reasons, Turkish spelling is otherwise dead logical). And the only place you ever see a W in Turkish is on signs, where it represents something even less common on fabrics than hedgehogs - "WC". ======== Email to "j-c" at this site; email to "bogus" will bounce ======== Jack Campin: 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU; 0131 6604760 http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/purrhome.html food intolerance data & recipes, Mac logic fonts, Scots traditional music files and CD-ROMs of Scottish music. |
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