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Old February 1st 04, 08:26 PM
Cina
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Default White 2999... what to do?

I just bought a White 2999 from an online dealer that I've heard good
things about. It arrived Friday, and in general I'm pleased with it...
buttonholes are a breeze, it's got nifty features like needle up/down,
the ability to lower feed dogs, and sewing without a pedal (whee!). But
there's a few stitches that just don't look like they're supposed to,
and I'm unsure what to do about it.

Stitch #19 is a stretch overlock stitch, and it's supposed to look like
an uppercase V with a lowercase v nested inside it. But the lowercase v
doesn't connect properly, and it looks like an uppercase V with two
little lines at the top.

Stitch #20 is a smocking stitch and should look like squares, but when
I sew it, it looks more open, like interconnected Ss (uh, that would be
the letter S, plural. esses?)

Stitch #24 should look like an asterisk, but the two sides don't match
up. Instead it looks like two fans that are off-center.

You can see pics of these stitches at
http://cinaminx.com/gallery/album14 The photos aren't the greatest
quality (the fabric is actually black, not brown), but you can get a
general idea of what I'm talking about. There's also a photo of the
machine, for comparison to what the stitches are supposed to look like.

Tomorrow I'll call the place where I bought this machine and ask their
advice (they're not open today), but I'd also like to hear your
opinions... Is this a problem with White machines in general? This
particular model? This machine specifically? I don't know whether I'll
want to exchange it for another (same model) machine, or just return it
and get something else. Perhaps keep it and live with the weird
stitches? They do charge a 20% restocking fee if I return it because I
don't like the machine, but I'm not sure if this counts as "not liking
it" (I *do* like this machine in general, but I don't like the poor
stitches, which I think are defective... they certainly don't come out
as pictured on the machine.) Am I being too picky?


Cina
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Old February 1st 04, 08:45 PM
Pati Cook
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Cina, there are a couple of possibilities here.
One, the balance is slightly off. There is a balance control somewhere on
the machine, usually on the back or bottom. Your manual should tell you
where.
Two, are you using a stabilizer when sewing these stitches? Often using
the appropriate stabilizer will solve this type of problem.
Three, make sure you are not pulling/pushing or holding the fabric back as
these are stitching out. Since these are some of the reverse motion
stitches this is very, very important.

You might also need to slightly loosen the top tension for any of these
stitches, as well as lighten up on the pressure foot pressure just a tad.

White machines in general are very good quality machines. Check and see on
the plate that has the serial number, where the machine was made. (I used
to know all the White machine numbers and all, but not for the last couple
of years.)
White is owned by Husqvarna/Viking and some of the White machines are
actually made in the H/V factory in Sweden. (I can check Tues. when I
teach to get more info on Balance and such if you need me to.)

Yes, I teach at a Viking/White dealership, and own Viking and White
machines, but otherwise not associated, etc.

Pati, in Phx


Cina wrote:

I just bought a White 2999 from an online dealer that I've heard good
things about. It arrived Friday, and in general I'm pleased with it...
buttonholes are a breeze, it's got nifty features like needle up/down,
the ability to lower feed dogs, and sewing without a pedal (whee!). But
there's a few stitches that just don't look like they're supposed to,
and I'm unsure what to do about it.

Stitch #19 is a stretch overlock stitch, and it's supposed to look like
an uppercase V with a lowercase v nested inside it. But the lowercase v
doesn't connect properly, and it looks like an uppercase V with two
little lines at the top.

Stitch #20 is a smocking stitch and should look like squares, but when
I sew it, it looks more open, like interconnected Ss (uh, that would be
the letter S, plural. esses?)

Stitch #24 should look like an asterisk, but the two sides don't match
up. Instead it looks like two fans that are off-center.

You can see pics of these stitches at
http://cinaminx.com/gallery/album14 The photos aren't the greatest
quality (the fabric is actually black, not brown), but you can get a
general idea of what I'm talking about. There's also a photo of the
machine, for comparison to what the stitches are supposed to look like.

Tomorrow I'll call the place where I bought this machine and ask their
advice (they're not open today), but I'd also like to hear your
opinions... Is this a problem with White machines in general? This
particular model? This machine specifically? I don't know whether I'll
want to exchange it for another (same model) machine, or just return it
and get something else. Perhaps keep it and live with the weird
stitches? They do charge a 20% restocking fee if I return it because I
don't like the machine, but I'm not sure if this counts as "not liking
it" (I *do* like this machine in general, but I don't like the poor
stitches, which I think are defective... they certainly don't come out
as pictured on the machine.) Am I being too picky?

Cina


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Old February 1st 04, 08:58 PM
Maine-iac Rose
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Hello Cina, well I don't have the White machine, i have the Kenmore 19001,
but in my manual, it does go into the distorted patterns, it show the
smocking stitch in what it is supposed to look like, and what if it is
distorted somehow.
well if you go to my webshots photo album, and go into the misc album, there
is a pic that i scanned from my manual, so check your manual and see if you
have something like my machine does.

http://community.webshots.com/user/maineiacrose

Good luck...Maine-iac Rose


"Cina" wrote in message
...
I just bought a White 2999 from an online dealer that I've heard good
things about. It arrived Friday, and in general I'm pleased with it...
buttonholes are a breeze, it's got nifty features like needle up/down,
the ability to lower feed dogs, and sewing without a pedal (whee!). But
there's a few stitches that just don't look like they're supposed to,
and I'm unsure what to do about it.

Stitch #19 is a stretch overlock stitch, and it's supposed to look like
an uppercase V with a lowercase v nested inside it. But the lowercase v
doesn't connect properly, and it looks like an uppercase V with two
little lines at the top.

Stitch #20 is a smocking stitch and should look like squares, but when
I sew it, it looks more open, like interconnected Ss (uh, that would be
the letter S, plural. esses?)

Stitch #24 should look like an asterisk, but the two sides don't match
up. Instead it looks like two fans that are off-center.

You can see pics of these stitches at
http://cinaminx.com/gallery/album14 The photos aren't the greatest
quality (the fabric is actually black, not brown), but you can get a
general idea of what I'm talking about. There's also a photo of the
machine, for comparison to what the stitches are supposed to look like.

Tomorrow I'll call the place where I bought this machine and ask their
advice (they're not open today), but I'd also like to hear your
opinions... Is this a problem with White machines in general? This
particular model? This machine specifically? I don't know whether I'll
want to exchange it for another (same model) machine, or just return it
and get something else. Perhaps keep it and live with the weird
stitches? They do charge a 20% restocking fee if I return it because I
don't like the machine, but I'm not sure if this counts as "not liking
it" (I *do* like this machine in general, but I don't like the poor
stitches, which I think are defective... they certainly don't come out
as pictured on the machine.) Am I being too picky?


Cina




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Old February 2nd 04, 01:34 AM
Cina
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Pati wrote:

Cina, there are a couple of possibilities here.
One, the balance is slightly off. There is a balance control somewhere on
the machine, usually on the back or bottom. Your manual should tell you
where.


There's nothing I can find, and not one word in the manual about this
problem, or any sort of balance control thingie.


Two, are you using a stabilizer when sewing these stitches? Often using
the appropriate stabilizer will solve this type of problem.
Three, make sure you are not pulling/pushing or holding the fabric back as
these are stitching out. Since these are some of the reverse motion
stitches this is very, very important.


I've tried them with stabilizer, though the fabric in the photos didn't
have stabilizer. I'm pretty sure I wasn't holding the fabric too much,
and on a few of the samples, I didn't hold it at all.


You might also need to slightly loosen the top tension for any of these
stitches, as well as lighten up on the pressure foot pressure just a tad.


I've tried to adjust the tension, but not the presser foot pressure.
I'll give that a try next.


White machines in general are very good quality machines. Check and see on
the plate that has the serial number, where the machine was made. (I used
to know all the White machine numbers and all, but not for the last couple
of years.)
White is owned by Husqvarna/Viking and some of the White machines are
actually made in the H/V factory in Sweden. (I can check Tues. when I
teach to get more info on Balance and such if you need me to.)

Yes, I teach at a Viking/White dealership, and own Viking and White
machines, but otherwise not associated, etc.


I've heard that they were good machines... it was based on
recommendations from others that I looked into White machines in the
first place! I just checked the label on the back, and it says "Made in
Taiwan." I'd appreciate if you could find out something about this
balance control... I can't find anything visible for adjusting it, and
suspect it's somewhere inside the plastic case. I'm not sure I'm ready
to go delving in there just yet, mostly because I think that would
probably void any warranties on the machine.

I've got an email out to the seller; we'll see what they say. Thanks so
much for your help!


Cina
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Old February 2nd 04, 01:42 AM
Cina
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Maine-iac Rose wrote:

Hello Cina, well I don't have the White machine, i have the Kenmore 19001,
but in my manual, it does go into the distorted patterns, it show the
smocking stitch in what it is supposed to look like, and what if it is
distorted somehow.
well if you go to my webshots photo album, and go into the misc album, there
is a pic that i scanned from my manual, so check your manual and see if you
have something like my machine does.

http://community.webshots.com/user/maineiacrose



Yes! That's exactly what's going on with mine. Thank you!

Sadly, mine doesn't have anything in the manual covering this
situation. I hope it's not something I have to take somewhere to have
serviced... I just got it! I haven't even picked out a name yet!

Thank you for taking the time to scan your manual!


Cina
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Old February 2nd 04, 03:21 AM
Maine-iac Rose
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no problem, sorry your manual doesn't show anything like that, but hopefully
when you call the place tomorrow, they can tell you what to do, instead of
getting it serviced. I hate when that happens.
well good luck with that, and I'll keep that pic up for a while just in case
you need it for reference, or have you already saved that pic?

take care, good luck...Maine-iac Rose

"Cina" wrote in message
Maine-iac Rose wrote:


Yes! That's exactly what's going on with mine. Thank you!

Sadly, mine doesn't have anything in the manual covering this
situation. I hope it's not something I have to take somewhere to have
serviced... I just got it! I haven't even picked out a name yet!

Thank you for taking the time to scan your manual!


Cina



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Old February 4th 04, 06:31 PM
Kate Dicey
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Pati Cook wrote:

Cina, there are a couple of possibilities here.
One, the balance is slightly off. There is a balance control somewhere on
the machine, usually on the back or bottom. Your manual should tell you
where.
Two, are you using a stabilizer when sewing these stitches? Often using
the appropriate stabilizer will solve this type of problem.
Three, make sure you are not pulling/pushing or holding the fabric back as
these are stitching out. Since these are some of the reverse motion
stitches this is very, very important.

You might also need to slightly loosen the top tension for any of these
stitches, as well as lighten up on the pressure foot pressure just a tad.

White machines in general are very good quality machines. Check and see on
the plate that has the serial number, where the machine was made. (I used
to know all the White machine numbers and all, but not for the last couple
of years.)
White is owned by Husqvarna/Viking and some of the White machines are
actually made in the H/V factory in Sweden. (I can check Tues. when I
teach to get more info on Balance and such if you need me to.)

Yes, I teach at a Viking/White dealership, and own Viking and White
machines, but otherwise not associated, etc.


My Lily has started missing bits and not forming zigzagz properly: some
stitches are OK for a whole, but gp 'off' for a few inches... Seems to
be a fairly random collection! After talking to the dealer's daughter,
provisional diagnosis is either a faulty step motor or the timing os
off! 'Unusual' Tracy said, and 'I don't need to ask about cleaning and
the like, do I?' No, she doesn't... Either way, I'm looking at it
being out of commission for a while as i hope to take it for fixing
tomorrow! JUST when I least need it! Luckily my mum is in Kent this
week, looking after my nephews, so she has brought her machine down for
me (my old Viscount). I shall be sewing, but I need mine fixed in time
to do the buttonholes on these posh jackets. I don't fancy doing nearly
40 buttonholes by hand!
--
Kate XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
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Old February 4th 04, 10:05 PM
Maine-iac Rose
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Oh no problem, we went and looked at the litter, was supposed to get the
female yellow, but younger brother wanted her, and older brother, (that had
the mother of the litter) decided they were not going to keep the chocolate
pup, and we fell in love with her when we saw her that day. I don't recall
leaving DH head out of the pic that day, guess I was just thinking about the
new puppy that we would have in a few weeks. She was not just a cutie, but
very lovable. the first few months, she followed me around every where, and
Beash-Ka the 1st didn't want anything to do with her, well at least not the
first few weeks, then she got to love the new pup also. When Ki-U was about
a year old, i decided i wanted to go babysit, to have something to do, and
of course to get that little bit more money for my material and yarn stash,
and boy it was awful for a while, Ki-U would howl when i left. But i would
get the little boy and bring him over to our apt and then she got use to me
leaving her home, and knowing that i would be back soon.
I see that you have some pics up at webshots, i'll get around to looking at
them eventually, i have a list of others to go look at.
Maine-iac Rose
@---

"Dr. Quilter" wrote in message
Sorry cina, I cannot help with the stitches, but I wanted to tell Rose
that I snooped into her pets' album and I have to say, that picture of
the 3 week old Ki-U is to die for! What a cutie! I love that puzzled
look baby dogs have... like "what's going on? I am only half awake" )

Maine-iac Rose wrote:

no problem, sorry your manual doesn't show anything like that, but

hopefully
when you call the place tomorrow, they can tell you what to do, instead

of
getting it serviced. I hate when that happens.
well good luck with that, and I'll keep that pic up for a while just in

case
you need it for reference, or have you already saved that pic?

take care, good luck...Maine-iac Rose

"Cina" wrote in message

Maine-iac Rose wrote:


Yes! That's exactly what's going on with mine. Thank you!

Sadly, mine doesn't have anything in the manual covering this
situation. I hope it's not something I have to take somewhere to have
serviced... I just got it! I haven't even picked out a name yet!

Thank you for taking the time to scan your manual!


Cina





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Dr. Quilter
Ambassador of Extraordinary Aliens
http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali
(take the dog out before replying)



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Old February 13th 04, 07:21 PM
Denise Jameson
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Marissa..........pls. send me your snail mail address. I have a
squishy for your millenium quilt!
thanks.
Denise in Ontario, Canada

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 08:48:04 -0800, "Dr. Quilter"
wrote:

Sorry cina, I cannot help with the stitches, but I wanted to tell Rose
that I snooped into her pets' album and I have to say, that picture of
the 3 week old Ki-U is to die for! What a cutie! I love that puzzled
look baby dogs have... like "what's going on? I am only half awake" )

Maine-iac Rose wrote:

no problem, sorry your manual doesn't show anything like that, but hopefully
when you call the place tomorrow, they can tell you what to do, instead of
getting it serviced. I hate when that happens.
well good luck with that, and I'll keep that pic up for a while just in case
you need it for reference, or have you already saved that pic?

take care, good luck...Maine-iac Rose

"Cina" wrote in message

Maine-iac Rose wrote:


Yes! That's exactly what's going on with mine. Thank you!

Sadly, mine doesn't have anything in the manual covering this
situation. I hope it's not something I have to take somewhere to have
serviced... I just got it! I haven't even picked out a name yet!

Thank you for taking the time to scan your manual!


Cina





 




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