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August 8th 03, 02:16 AM
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August 8th 03, 02:39 AM
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Good job, Sharon! I see there is hope for me yet! Maybe Cheyne's mom, if
she EXISTS can lurk and get the support she needs to lose the weight...IF she exists... -- A Joy in Hawaii http://community.webshots.com/user/joyquilts "Sharon Harper" wrote in message u... Okay, I'm going to step in here and reveal a secret - my starting weight at WW. NO-ONE except the weigher chick at WW knows this. I'm loathe to admit it because I am deeply embarassed. I weighed in at 125 kilos (that's roughly 250 pounds). You say your mom is 100 pounds overweight - that is not life and death, sad, not beneficial to her health yes, but not lethal. You mum needs to work with her GP, and if necessary a specialist. She doesn't have to alter her life dramatically - just cutting out butter on toast/bread can help her to lose a pound a week which would very quickly add up. That's what I'm doing at the moment - little changes - and they have added up to going from a tight size 26 to a comfortable size 18 in six months. And what's better - IT HASN'T COME BACK!! -- Sharon From Melbourne Australia (Qof DU) http://www.geocities.com/shazrules/index.html Member of the Houston 2004 Party Animals "Cheyne" wrote in message om... I do work full-time... I WORK 60 HOURS a week.... as a pastry chef in a restaurant in downtown Houston... I live in a CRAPPY apartment, which I just moved into just so I could take a cut in rent... to help my mom... I now live on the bottom floor so my mom can come visit me because she cant walk up stairs at all..I cant take a semester off, I am enrolled in a private college *Art Institute* where I have 40,000 dollars I owe regardless if I attend or not, my butt is signed into that for life. If I take a semester off, they bill me for it as if I was still attending, I also currently have a 4.0 GPA and have a few women chef scholarships that ride on me being in attendance, or I will lose those too... So in otherwords, you tell me to give up the only chance I have to succeed in life to help my mom yet I am doing everything I can to help her.... I get no sleep.. I work and do homework all day long... I have no car... I am sewing quilt blocks to TRY AND raise some extra money besides what I set aside from the cut in my rent.... I am still a child... what can you say you knew at 22?? The same as you know now???? If thats the case then I should be a genius?? I have a whole life to learn, and being 5 feet tall doesnt help any. My mom is over 100 lbs overweight... she has done the research believe me... She knows this can help her, everything else hasnt... AT least its a shot... You make it sound like, if you had a chance to survive from cancer by getting chemo one more time, you wouldnt do it... just because it COULD have the possibility of NOT working... Its worth the try... You arent trying to slam me, yet everything you said was a direct slam... I am doing what I can.... I work, I MAINTAIN a 4.0 GPA, I cut my rent back... I am living on a sandwich a day, sewing quilt blocks.... and consistently attending all classes and school which run from 7 in the morning to 11 at night... I didnt ask to be hurt... and if anything... my feelings have just been crushed... I didnt ask for you to give me money... I just asked to trade... :*( If you were hurt, you would want your daughter to do the same... or would you be honored your daughter did this?? MY mom doesnt know I am doing this for her... I just want to repay her for the love and support she has given me... CNYstitcher wrote in message ... Cheyne wrote: I was referred here by someone in another group in another place who also posts here and said that this group likes to trade quilt blocks. You really should say who referred you as this is not something that a regular member would do a daughter who is only 22, I am just a child asking for some help. These last 2 statements are contradictory. A person who is 22 can no longer be considered a child. Also, if the situation is so dire, not returning to college for a semester might be a better option - instead, what about working full-time to help earn the money needed to defray the cost of medical treatment? Everything I have read has said that gastric-bypass surgery is something that is *not considered for tha majority of people, and they must be at least 100 pounds overweight. In reading your original post, you have mentioned issues that affect my mother as well - thyroid problems, blood pressure, arthritis. I am not asking for help for my mother, but am doing everything I can to see that she gets the help that she needs. She is still able to work, adn so she does so. She takes medicine for her thyroid, which may or may not help, medicines for depression and fibromyalgia, and who knows what else as she has chosen NOT to keep me posted of her continuing medical troubles. Several times, my DH and I have sent her money to help her out with finances because she needed to use her money for doctors visits and medicines. I am not trying to slam you, just suggesting that, instead of furthering your education (especially if there are children at home that your mother is having difficutly taking care of), take time to work and earn some money to help with everything. College will still be there.
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August 8th 03, 02:52 AM
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Cheyne,
You really should take a step back, breathe, realize you DID do something wrong, and apologize. We really are a great buncha people! Read the rules of the NG. Maybe your mom could. If anything, I would love to hear about her quilts and possibly see pics of her work. She would be welcomed and supported through her weight loss. If you cared enough to read the posts related to yours, there are lots of people here that are going through the same thing. Anyhow, just wanted to say what I needed to say. It hurts me to see so many people frustrated. If you are gone forever from this NG, so be it. But why not "sit a while", apologize, make friends, introduce us to your mom, and if things get worse, we will definitely be here for moral support... --- A Joy in Hawaii http://community.webshots.com/user/joyquilts "Cheyne" wrote in message m... I was told to come here by one of your fellow memebers.. I didnt JUST find this site... I am not in the wrong for posting something like this.. If you dont like it... then you shouldnt have read it.. am I right or does freedom of press not exist anymore??? I think those who commented, took it into their own hands when they chose to read it.. by law, if you open it.. you are negotiating to its terms regardless of what it says... I am just going to leave and go about my way... but maybe you should turn your head and look around you at who is giving out YOUR name to others to post here....... ?? Kate Dicey wrote in message ... Having read this thread through careful before commenting, I would just say: You caused severe offence by trying to sell ANYTHING he this is a NEWS group, not a marketplace group, and selling anything is very severely frowned upon. You would have done better to read the rules for news groups in general, where this is clearly set set out, and for this group in particular, which has fought a long hard battle against spammers. You would also have done much better to lurk for a day or two and READ all the posts, to see what sort of a group this is, or to ASK if posting ads was acceptable and to be shown the charter for this group. Instead you jumped in with both feet and landed on a lot of sensibilities, bruising them. You ignored the social mores of the group, and you wonder why you got a poor reception? Your personal circumstances, severe though they may be, are irrelevant to this issue. You will have to understand that we will also remain sceptical about the person you say sent you here. Were they a regular poster and taking a full part in what goes on here, all this would be well known to them and one thing they There are several of us here who's circumstances are at least as dire as those you describe. When their troubles hit them, we as a group do our best to support them in whatever way we can. We have supported our friends through divorce, marriage, death of loved ones, cancer (there are a number of these ongoing at present), loss of jobs and loss of mobility. They may also ask us to help with ideas for raising money, but none of them try to sell us things in an inappropriate place and manner. There are also those of us here who are professional quilters of various sorts as well as amateurs and new quilters. Most if us are here to exchange ideas and skills, information, and even fabric Sometimes we exchange whole blocks. This is the thing about this group: we exchange like for like. We don't BUY quilts - we MAKE them. This group is for people to exchange things to do with making quilts for ourselves. Occasionally we get together and make a quilt for a member of the group, for a particular reason. If something terrible happens, we make a hug quilt for that person. That person does NOT try to blackmail his or her friends on the news group into buying their quilts with harrowing tales. They may well ask for (and get in abundance - and I speak from experience here) prayers for themselves and their loved ones, but no-one has yet asked for money. Sometimes we find a quilty project cannot be completed without a bit of begging: there are times when we run out of a particular fabric and cannot get it anywhere. We ask here, and sometimes the fabric is freely given, out of love, and sometimes a swap is arranged. There is always a barter or exchange happening here, but not of money - not a sale. Your story is neither unusual nor different from many others that do the rounds as begging spams daily. We have no way of checking its veracity, and with so many being stung like this before, we will remain sceptical and leery of such attempts at gaining sympathy. It reads like so many of the 'charity' begging letters that amount to nothing more than emotional blackmail. Some of these come from very respectable and well known organizations, like Oxfam and Amnesty International, as well as from individuals, and they may come via the mail or via the internet, but they amount to the same thing: unsolicited begging. This may not have been your intention, but this is how it came across. Now, WE did not write the tale: that is wholly your responsibility, and if it did not do as you hoped it would, you have to ask yourself why not. Your posting was spam: an unsolicited advertisement to a news only group. It's a begging letter: you ask for 'donations'. This may sound a little hard, but you also need to ask yourself, who caused the offence? And having answered this honestly, you then need to say, What can I do to put this right? Then you need to do it. P.S. There is a very supportive Weight Watchers news group, and also various other diet support groups on the net that will help your mother in every way they can.
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August 8th 03, 03:32 AM
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well put, Joy.
considering you're probably functioning on less sleep than most of us here. jeanne* -- RCTQ Houston 2004 Party Animals A good friend will come and bail you out of jail.... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" i'll be there!!! will you???  "Joy Quilts" wrote ... | Cheyne, | You really should take a step back, breathe, realize you DID do something | wrong, and apologize. We really are a great buncha people! Read the rules | of the NG. Maybe your mom could. If anything, I would love to hear about | her quilts and possibly see pics of her work. She would be welcomed and | supported through her weight loss. If you cared enough to read the posts | related to yours, there are lots of people here that are going through the | same thing. Anyhow, just wanted to say what I needed to say. It hurts me | to see so many people frustrated. If you are gone forever from this NG, so | be it. But why not "sit a while", apologize, make friends, introduce us to | your mom, and if things get worse, we will definitely be here for moral | support... | --- | A Joy in Hawaii | http://community.webshots.com/user/joyquilts
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August 8th 03, 05:11 AM
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Umm, but you said she was 100 lbs overweight.
-- Sharon From Melbourne Australia (Qof DU) http://www.geocities.com/shazrules/index.html Member of the Houston 2004 Party Animals "Cheyne" wrote in message om... She is more than 100 lbs overweight...a lot more And she doesnt eat constantly.. if anything she eats less than she should Thanks for your comments Leslie but my mother is not a dumb ass.... she has tried those methods... I didnt come here to just say... hey my mom is lazy and cant loose the weight.. she has tried the diets and the exercise.. and the eating right.. its not working for her... you were lucky.. (The HairyFacedOnes 'N Me) wrote in message ... Geez.... I was 100+ lbs. overweight for over 12 years. IT'S NOT *THAT* MUCH! You *can* lead a normal life at 100 lbs. over-weight. You DO NOT need to beg on news groups at 100 lbs. over weight. BUT..... you can go thru hell in your personal life and suddenly find that eating constantly just doesn't cut it any more and then start doing some exercise- just a little at first, I'm 100% disabled- and you will start feeling better. Then you find that eating less and exercising a bit more and looking nicer feels *really* good.... and then suddenly---- I am ***66 POUNDS LIGHTER AND LOVING IT!!!!!** And I'm still going lower! Tell your mom to get busy and do it the old fashioned way- eat less and exercise. It still works.... I can prove it. So can a few others on this group! Ladies? Please speak up..... Leslie (size women's 20 to a misses 14) The HairyFacedOnes 'N Me RCTQ- Houston 2004..... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail.... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn... that was fun!"
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August 8th 03, 05:29 AM
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Zzzzzzzz. Thanks for remembering - tee hee! Most times my mind is asleep
when I'm awake! Yikes! -- A Joy in Hawaii http://community.webshots.com/user/joyquilts "nzl*" wrote in message ... well put, Joy. considering you're probably functioning on less sleep than most of us here. jeanne* -- RCTQ Houston 2004 Party Animals A good friend will come and bail you out of jail.... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" i'll be there!!! will you??? "Joy Quilts" wrote ... | Cheyne, | You really should take a step back, breathe, realize you DID do something | wrong, and apologize. We really are a great buncha people! Read the rules | of the NG. Maybe your mom could. If anything, I would love to hear about | her quilts and possibly see pics of her work. She would be welcomed and | supported through her weight loss. If you cared enough to read the posts | related to yours, there are lots of people here that are going through the | same thing. Anyhow, just wanted to say what I needed to say. It hurts me | to see so many people frustrated. If you are gone forever from this NG, so | be it. But why not "sit a while", apologize, make friends, introduce us to | your mom, and if things get worse, we will definitely be here for moral | support... | --- | A Joy in Hawaii | http://community.webshots.com/user/joyquilts
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August 8th 03, 11:36 AM
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Sharon Harper wrote:
Okay, I'm going to step in here and reveal a secret - my starting weight at WW. NO-ONE except the weigher chick at WW knows this. I'm loathe to admit it because I am deeply embarassed. I weighed in at 125 kilos (that's roughly 250 pounds). You say your mom is 100 pounds overweight - that is not life and death, sad, not beneficial to her health yes, but not lethal. You mum needs to work with her GP, and if necessary a specialist. She doesn't have to alter her life dramatically - just cutting out butter on toast/bread can help her to lose a pound a week which would very quickly add up. That's what I'm doing at the moment - little changes - and they have added up to going from a tight size 26 to a comfortable size 18 in six months. And what's better - IT HASN'T COME BACK!! Sharon, you have done REALLY well there - an excellent example to all of us. It takes courage to admit how big were are when we know we have to do something about it. I started at 213, and am now at 190, having put on two due to water retention this week - everyone round here is doing that in the heat! I want to lose another 50 or so, to be comfortable. It will be slow, but the general trend is down, so while I get depressed about the blips here and there, I don't let them worry me too much. There is only one way to weigh less: eat less and exercise. For me at the moment the exercise is very hard as the fibro hates the heat, so all my joints are painful. I can SEE the water retained: my feet were so swollen yesterday that walking got painful. The skin was stretched tight, and I couldn't separate my toes. My ankles felt like they were in plaster casts. They are still swollen today, as are my fingers (like a bunch of sausages!). I shall do my unpicking of bridesmaid horrors with my feet up! If all that water went, I'd probably weigh less than last week, but hay - it'll be gone soon! There is only one way to keep weigh off once we have lost it: a life time of self discipline. Sounds hard, but all the surgery in the world won't keep the weight off if there's no discipline to go with it. One of my primary motivators at present is pain: if I eat the wrong stuff, my gall bladder will create merry hell, and I do NOT want to go there again! If I weigh more, I have more trouble with my fibo. That too can be VERY painful, so I don't want to go there too much either. It can be very hard, but with health issues, one has to be sensible. One nice side effect of the diet change is that we buy less pre-made food and processed stuff, and less food altogether, because we plan meals and buy for the plan, so we spend less on groceries!  -- Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
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August 8th 03, 12:33 PM
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got an email from Cheyne..........apparently, I have multiple names
within the group as everything that has been said here was said to have come from me - from asking if she was trying to fool us (meaning the group), to mentioning having a bridge for sale...too funny Sharon Harper wrote: Umm, but you said she was 100 lbs overweight.
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August 8th 03, 12:42 PM
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Joy, she does apparently read all the posts, but she doesn't always
remember what she read.....all negative comments have been attributed to me and me alone. Joy Quilts wrote: Cheyne, You really should take a step back, breathe, realize you DID do something wrong, and apologize. We really are a great buncha people! Read the rules of the NG. Maybe your mom could. If anything, I would love to hear about her quilts and possibly see pics of her work. She would be welcomed and supported through her weight loss. If you cared enough to read the posts related to yours, there are lots of people here that are going through the same thing. Anyhow, just wanted to say what I needed to say. It hurts me to see so many people frustrated. If you are gone forever from this NG, so be it. But why not "sit a while", apologize, make friends, introduce us to your mom, and if things get worse, we will definitely be here for moral support... --- A Joy in Hawaii http://community.webshots.com/user/joyquilts "Cheyne" wrote in message m... I was told to come here by one of your fellow memebers.. I didnt JUST find this site... I am not in the wrong for posting something like this.. If you dont like it... then you shouldnt have read it.. am I right or does freedom of press not exist anymore??? I think those who commented, took it into their own hands when they chose to read it.. by law, if you open it.. you are negotiating to its terms regardless of what it says... I am just going to leave and go about my way... but maybe you should turn your head and look around you at who is giving out YOUR name to others to post here....... ?? Kate Dicey wrote in message ... Having read this thread through careful before commenting, I would just say: You caused severe offence by trying to sell ANYTHING he this is a NEWS group, not a marketplace group, and selling anything is very severely frowned upon. You would have done better to read the rules for news groups in general, where this is clearly set set out, and for this group in particular, which has fought a long hard battle against spammers. You would also have done much better to lurk for a day or two and READ all the posts, to see what sort of a group this is, or to ASK if posting ads was acceptable and to be shown the charter for this group. Instead you jumped in with both feet and landed on a lot of sensibilities, bruising them. You ignored the social mores of the group, and you wonder why you got a poor reception? Your personal circumstances, severe though they may be, are irrelevant to this issue. You will have to understand that we will also remain sceptical about the person you say sent you here. Were they a regular poster and taking a full part in what goes on here, all this would be well known to them and one thing they There are several of us here who's circumstances are at least as dire as those you describe. When their troubles hit them, we as a group do our best to support them in whatever way we can. We have supported our friends through divorce, marriage, death of loved ones, cancer (there are a number of these ongoing at present), loss of jobs and loss of mobility. They may also ask us to help with ideas for raising money, but none of them try to sell us things in an inappropriate place and manner. There are also those of us here who are professional quilters of various sorts as well as amateurs and new quilters. Most if us are here to exchange ideas and skills, information, and even fabric Sometimes we exchange whole blocks. This is the thing about this group: we exchange like for like. We don't BUY quilts - we MAKE them. This group is for people to exchange things to do with making quilts for ourselves. Occasionally we get together and make a quilt for a member of the group, for a particular reason. If something terrible happens, we make a hug quilt for that person. That person does NOT try to blackmail his or her friends on the news group into buying their quilts with harrowing tales. They may well ask for (and get in abundance - and I speak from experience here) prayers for themselves and their loved ones, but no-one has yet asked for money. Sometimes we find a quilty project cannot be completed without a bit of begging: there are times when we run out of a particular fabric and cannot get it anywhere. We ask here, and sometimes the fabric is freely given, out of love, and sometimes a swap is arranged. There is always a barter or exchange happening here, but not of money - not a sale. Your story is neither unusual nor different from many others that do the rounds as begging spams daily. We have no way of checking its veracity, and with so many being stung like this before, we will remain sceptical and leery of such attempts at gaining sympathy. It reads like so many of the 'charity' begging letters that amount to nothing more than emotional blackmail. Some of these come from very respectable and well known organizations, like Oxfam and Amnesty International, as well as from individuals, and they may come via the mail or via the internet, but they amount to the same thing: unsolicited begging. This may not have been your intention, but this is how it came across. Now, WE did not write the tale: that is wholly your responsibility, and if it did not do as you hoped it would, you have to ask yourself why not. Your posting was spam: an unsolicited advertisement to a news only group. It's a begging letter: you ask for 'donations'. This may sound a little hard, but you also need to ask yourself, who caused the offence? And having answered this honestly, you then need to say, What can I do to put this right? Then you need to do it. P.S. There is a very supportive Weight Watchers news group, and also various other diet support groups on the net that will help your mother in every way they can.
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August 8th 03, 01:02 PM
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Regarding Ebay - each person who uses the computer can have an Ebay
identity, even the same person can have more than one. To say the neighbor is using the same ID as your mom just doesn't sound right. Sorry, you won't see any donation from me. Ginger in CA (Cheyne) wrote in message . com... Those "Things" werent bought for her... Her next door neighbor shares the ebay account with her, the lady doesnt have a computer... I KNOW what some people are going to say, why doesnt your mother sell the computer?? Because she needs it to run the business my father and her are in.. After 9/11 they were left with almost no money... they have almost no posessions.. They live in a log cabin they built themself... Anyone want to personally call me to question me on this?? You want to hear the desperation in my voice before you believe me??.. My moms auctions have been the ones where she has sold blocks and trying to sell her quilt..
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