Semi-OT - forum censorship

If you bead-makers INSIST on discussing this drivel, please remove
rec.crafts.glass from your headings!!!!

Now who's whining? Wah, wah, a thread I don't rule by intimidation.

Javahut -- are you a sock puppet? (Like you'd admit it if you
were....) You sure sound like one -- in fact, I went to the
dictionary, looked it up, and it said "i.e., Javahut." My goodness!

You can kiss my ass.
How's that for brutish?

At least it's loving. smoochie woochie

As long as we're talking about netiquette, though, could we do
something
about the top-posting

On RCB, it's officially been okayed to top-post, and this thread is
being cross-posted. So it's not necessarily bad etiquette to top-post
in this thread, see? Just disliked by some, which I've never,
personally, understood. What the heck is so dang horrible about
top-posting? So you have to scroll down a little to see what's being
referred to......even my husband, who has two paralyzed hands, can do
that.

Has anyone told the top dog how they feel? Have you gone to the owner
and
said "I think you should be more honest"? Maybe someone should.

Yes, of course. Lots of people have.

Why is what moonraker has to say unreasonable? Is it that you don't
like the message so you wish to kill the messenger? Your childish
attempt at
censorship is no different than what is being criticized in this
thread.

Another moonraker sycophant! I didn't know there were any, wow!

Henry Halem wrote:
It is interesting how you only respect those that agree with what you
have
to say. Why is what moonraker has to say unreasonable? Is it that you
don't
like the message so you wish to kill the messenger? Your childish
attempt at
censorship is no different than what is being criticized in this
thread.

You know, moonraker, on rec.crafts.glass, we have learned to
ignore your
brutish behavior - I usually just stop reading a thread once you
come on.
Seems like a reasonable discussion to me. I wonder how many people
just
skip out on rec.crafts.glass after encountering your
"contributions"?
Mike Firth

Why is what Moonraker has to say unreasonable? Jesus Henry. And this
from an academician. I've known you long enough to know exactly why you
say that though. People and ideas are just a means to a personal end.
Personally I'd rather make trinkets all day than sell my integrity for
a few crappy bucks. Which is precisely the reason you'll never be
succesful at anything but accumulating a resume that impresses the
fools. Your book is a lazy collection of other people's ideas and your
art is mere posturing. You should have been a Fuller Brush salesman.

Javahut wrote:

Why is what Moonraker has to say unreasonable? Jesus Henry. And
this
from an academician. I've known you long enough to know exactly why
you
say that though. People and ideas are just a means to a personal
end.
Personally I'd rather make trinkets all day than sell my integrity
for
a few crappy bucks. Which is precisely the reason you'll never be
succesful at anything but accumulating a resume that impresses the
fools. Your book is a lazy collection of other people's ideas and
your
art is mere posturing. You should have been a Fuller Brush
salesman.


What's the deal? Got an ax to grind? Just plain don't like the guy?

First time I have noticed you here, but more of a reason for me to
stay
away, this NG is getting like a damn chat room....


Well, there's a history there, if that's what you mean. For Henry the
message boards are all about making money. He is not alone in that,
though he has been particularly shameless in milking it. I remember one
time when he told one lady not to solicit funds for breast cancer among
the glass community, and in the next breath plugged his 'EZtherm'
$20,000 molybdenum furnaces. So it doesn't come as any surprise that he
would defend this Moonraker dirtbag and the actions of wetcanvas in
censoring private messages for commercial reasons. Disgusting, but not
surprising. For myself, I view people who need to make money by
manipulating those seeking information as true bottom feeders and I
give them a wide berth. People who approach 'experts' needing
information about glass are coming to you with their hat in their hand
hoping you will behave with integrity. Whenever I see that trust abused
it makes my skin crawl.

I first posted to rec.crafts.glass in 1994.

Well, there's a history there, if that's what you mean. For Henry the
message boards are all about making money. He is not alone in that,
though he has been particularly shameless in milking it. I remember one
time when he told one lady not to solicit funds for breast cancer among
the glass community, and in the next breath plugged his 'EZtherm'
$20,000 molybdenum furnaces. So it doesn't come as any surprise that he
would defend this Moonraker dirtbag and the actions of wetcanvas in
censoring private messages for commercial reasons. Disgusting, but not
surprising. For myself, I view people who need to make money by
manipulating those seeking information as true bottom feeders and I
give them a wide berth. People who approach 'experts' needing
information about glass are coming to you with their hat in their hand
hoping you will behave with integrity. Whenever I see that trust abused
it makes my skin crawl.

I first posted to rec.crafts.glass in 1994.


So there is indeed an axe to grind, and there is the explanation of it, but
in that axe grinding how does the "Moonraker dirtbag" enter into it.
You have a problem with Henry, who I only know by his posts here and having
read his book.
I know nothing of his furnaces, but did read his defense of Moon's post ,
which Mike Firth sought to have comment on, (be sure and buy a subscription
to "glas bits" and consult the website to find out the time of day).

The name calling and "chatty" content of having something to say,
regardless of its benefit to anyone, has gotten this group off on a tangent
that is just sort of ridiculous.

I would like to know your name and what is the history? Why do you remain
anonymous?
Henry


Javahut wrote:

Why is what Moonraker has to say unreasonable? Jesus Henry. And
this
from an academician. I've known you long enough to know exactly why
you
say that though. People and ideas are just a means to a personal
end.
Personally I'd rather make trinkets all day than sell my integrity
for
a few crappy bucks. Which is precisely the reason you'll never be
succesful at anything but accumulating a resume that impresses the
fools. Your book is a lazy collection of other people's ideas and
your
art is mere posturing. You should have been a Fuller Brush
salesman.


What's the deal? Got an ax to grind? Just plain don't like the guy?

First time I have noticed you here, but more of a reason for me to
stay
away, this NG is getting like a damn chat room....


Well, there's a history there, if that's what you mean. For Henry the
message boards are all about making money. He is not alone in that,
though he has been particularly shameless in milking it. I remember one
time when he told one lady not to solicit funds for breast cancer among
the glass community, and in the next breath plugged his 'EZtherm'
$20,000 molybdenum furnaces. So it doesn't come as any surprise that he
would defend this Moonraker dirtbag and the actions of wetcanvas in
censoring private messages for commercial reasons. Disgusting, but not
surprising. For myself, I view people who need to make money by
manipulating those seeking information as true bottom feeders and I
give them a wide berth. People who approach 'experts' needing
information about glass are coming to you with their hat in their hand
hoping you will behave with integrity. Whenever I see that trust abused
it makes my skin crawl.

I first posted to rec.crafts.glass in 1994.