Corinabeads and challenges

Sikeston, Missouri--or as DH calls it, Sucks-a-ton, Misery.

"Kaytee" wrote in message
...
In article , "~Candace~"
writes:

I could buy a 4 bedrom house here for $20,000!

Where is that? India?

$20K won't even add a room to an existing house, here. And may not even be
enough to remodel the kitchen.
Kaytee
"Simplexities" on
www.eclecticbeadery.com

In my home town you can purchase a three bedroom house with land for $30K.

--
Starlia Klopman
www.klopmanstudios.com


"Kathy N-V" wrote in message
. giganews.com...
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:14:55 -0400, Candace~ wrote
(in message ) :

F*CK! I could buy a 4 bedrom house here for $20,000!

*sigh* sorry.

Oh. My. God.

I would need almost forty times that amount to buy my house (and it's
not a great house). The average house in the Boston area is right
around $750,000. A four bedroom in one of the nicer communities
would be well over a million. In a top-tier suburb, it would be
double or triple that, depending on the amount of land and how nice
the house is.

Are you serious - you can buy a four bedroom home for less than the
cost of a car? That's astonishing.

Kathy N-V

OH MY GOD.

I can't even have my garage remodeled for that!

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


~Candace~ wrote:
F*CK! I could buy a 4 bedrom house here for $20,000!

*sigh* sorry.

"Dr. Sooz" wrote in message
...

You know what I think? (Otherwise known as "Who cares -- shhh!")

I think that money is a sliding scale thing. $1000 would be a teensy drop

in

the bucket to me if our household income were ten times what it now is.

It

would be one big shrug.

$1000 is *nothing* to pay for a pair of shoes, for instance, to some

women.

(To use an item we've been talking about in other threads....SHOES.) They
*collect* Manolos. Some women think nothing of spending $20,000 for a

DRESS.

So, maybe the buyer of Corina's set of beads -- and her bidding-war

partner

there -- have lots of money. Simply put.

It's all relative. (And I no longer think it's insane.)
~~
Sooz

They've been saying that here for about ten years. Still going up... so far.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


LC aka Fiddy wrote:
F*CK! I could buy a 4 bedrom house here for $20,000!


Welcome to the world, girl! Here, in Sunny So Cal, it would take that to
remodel a bathroom! LOL...

and Sooz?..she's up in "bogglesthemindhowexpensiverealestateis" land! (but,
according to my dh who's a financial planner, and his real estate friends...the
market has topped, and we're headed for a "correction"!)

The Blessed Fiddy, Patroness Saint of the Disorganized
LC in Sunny So Cal
Personality Development Specialist (Full-Time Mom!)

My friend Michael is looking at a 4-bedroom brick home in Baltimore
that's up for sale for $18,000.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Kaytee wrote:
In article , "~Candace~"
writes:


I could buy a 4 bedrom house here for $20,000!


Where is that? India?

$20K won't even add a room to an existing house, here. And may not even be
enough to remodel the kitchen.
Kaytee
"Simplexities" on
www.eclecticbeadery.com

Many serious art collectors have no intention of ever selling their
collection.

I have the start of a decent lampwork collection and it will never be
sold while I'm alive, barring unforeseen financial hardship. Some of my
collection has little resale value... I bought the beads for their value
to me, as art. So, to me, they were art worthy of adding to my
collection... collectible art.

Semantics are interesting. What a word or phrase means to one person may
be radically different for another.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Christina Peterson wrote:
You know, I really hate that word, "collectible", as well as the concept.
It really kind of means that the value is in the *resale*, and not the item
itself, not in the worthiness of the art.

In that context, I'd much rather pay $1,000 for beads for the art value, and
their value as good material for other art work, than pay $200 for a doll
because someone else might take it off my hands for a comparable value.

Tina


"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
...

It's the difference, in a real-market kind of way, between art and
craft. They may be one and the same to the maker, but the collector will
pay that kind of money for something they perceive as collectible art. I
think it's a wonderful step forward for lampwork as an art... we're
already there as a craft, but we have yet to be truly accepted as a fine
art. (I'm not saying that we're all artists, but there are some
lampworkers who are, and should be (and aren't) accepted as fine artists).

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Dr. Sooz wrote:

The auction that closed for over $1000: http://snipurl.com/8rg1 (to do

her

site and read about her reaction to it)


Come ON. This is insane.
~~
Sooz

AW!

(Make sure it's Gaffer)

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Lori Greenberg wrote:
Spoiler nothing. Have I told you lately that I love you? )

Kalera Stratton wrote:

AW!

(Make sure it's Gaffer)



Now you've got me confused. I could only find Zimmerman Opaque. I
guess I'll have to go look some more.

Lori-no-signature-yet-Greenberg

Wow! Where do you *live*?? That would barely be a down payment for a 4
bedroom here in Washington.

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net

F*CK! I could buy a 4 bedrom house here for $20,000!

*sigh* sorry.

"Dr. Sooz" wrote in message
...
You know what I think? (Otherwise known as "Who cares -- shhh!")

I think that money is a sliding scale thing. $1000 would be a teensy
drop
in
the bucket to me if our household income were ten times what it now is.
It
would be one big shrug.

$1000 is *nothing* to pay for a pair of shoes, for instance, to some
women.
(To use an item we've been talking about in other threads....SHOES.)
They
*collect* Manolos. Some women think nothing of spending $20,000 for a
DRESS.
So, maybe the buyer of Corina's set of beads -- and her bidding-war
partner
there -- have lots of money. Simply put.

It's all relative. (And I no longer think it's insane.)
~~
Sooz

I agree. I don't like all of Corina's sets, but that's a subjective
thing. There are sets of hers that I like way more than the one we're
talking about, but that's a personal preference thing. When someone falls
in love with something and has to have it no matter what, that's good for
everyone.
I just hope everyone can remember that Corina is a person and she sees all
of this and has feelings about it. People should read the chats on her
website, because there are some people really trash talking her, and it's
really uncalled-for. (Not here, of course, we're pretty good about
respecting people for the most part)
Here's her page, the chat is Wednesday:
http://www.corinabeads.com/

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net

the collector will
pay that kind of money for something they perceive as collectible art. I
think it's a wonderful step forward for lampwork as an art... we're
already there as a craft, but we have yet to be truly accepted as a fine
art. (I'm not saying that we're all artists, but there are some
lampworkers who are, and should be (and aren't) accepted as fine
artists).

-Kalera

Even though I do hear some kvetching here and there (I don't mean in this
thread) about Corina's beads not being all-that, I do think her beads are
art
as opposed to craft. Not every set of hers, but that's okay. Her stuff
is
head-and-shoulders above the majority of other lampworkers, and I think
the
inspiration and discovery is obvious in her glass. But it's an opinion,
so
feel free to disagree. (I also think there're some sour grapes out there
in
the Corina-kvetching....)
~~
Sooz