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I personally have a hard time understanding how that much money would
be spent on one strand of beads, it's not that they are Corina's. It's just ME (I'm cheap... I guess, it's just that's A LOT of money to me, and I wouldn't spend it on anyone's one strand of lampwork - including mine) It wasn't to underestimate art, or someone's thought of art, or anything else like that, it was just my belly button comment... that's all. I understand about a $200 barbie, heck I understand about a $200 strand of beads... that's a somewhat realistic $amount to me... There is just something about $1000.00 for 1 strand of beads that is hard for me to imagine. I think someone else stated it best, I can't see how they would hold their value. The bottom line is as long as the buyer is happy - more power to them, it's just hard to understand (*for me*) As far as the crystals comment - again - my point of view - I stated that because right now I'm on a crystal craze, where I'm making some really neat bracelets with crystal, and I would actually *use* them. All the lampwork that I have, that I personally did not make is on display.... typically I do not use what I get - they are more of a collection. That's all Why is it insane to pay that for someone's work? I'm really having a hard time understanding why anyone is that wound up about the price Corina received for her work. I sold a Barbie a year or so ago that I'd made a hand-beaded outfit for, and got $200. For a Barbie. Yup, some people would imagine that a silly plastic doll wouldn't be worth that much even with a handmade outfit. I've seen dolls go for thousands and thousands of dollars, simply because someone with the money thought the doll was worth it. I don't see why beads should not get the same respect and money as any other piece of art/craft. Crystals? well that's another story. I'd rather pay for the handmade item than something machine-made. -Su |
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Yep, it's all about perspective.
-- Kandice Seeber Air & Earth Designs http://www.lampwork.net "The Bead Goddess" wrote in message om... I personally have a hard time understanding how that much money would be spent on one strand of beads, it's not that they are Corina's. It's just ME (I'm cheap... I guess, it's just that's A LOT of money to me, and I wouldn't spend it on anyone's one strand of lampwork - including mine) It wasn't to underestimate art, or someone's thought of art, or anything else like that, it was just my belly button comment... that's all. I understand about a $200 barbie, heck I understand about a $200 strand of beads... that's a somewhat realistic $amount to me... There is just something about $1000.00 for 1 strand of beads that is hard for me to imagine. I think someone else stated it best, I can't see how they would hold their value. The bottom line is as long as the buyer is happy - more power to them, it's just hard to understand (*for me*) As far as the crystals comment - again - my point of view - I stated that because right now I'm on a crystal craze, where I'm making some really neat bracelets with crystal, and I would actually *use* them. All the lampwork that I have, that I personally did not make is on display.... typically I do not use what I get - they are more of a collection. That's all Why is it insane to pay that for someone's work? I'm really having a hard time understanding why anyone is that wound up about the price Corina received for her work. I sold a Barbie a year or so ago that I'd made a hand-beaded outfit for, and got $200. For a Barbie. Yup, some people would imagine that a silly plastic doll wouldn't be worth that much even with a handmade outfit. I've seen dolls go for thousands and thousands of dollars, simply because someone with the money thought the doll was worth it. I don't see why beads should not get the same respect and money as any other piece of art/craft. Crystals? well that's another story. I'd rather pay for the handmade item than something machine-made. -Su |
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could we find it "stupifying" ?
The Blessed Fiddy, Patroness Saint of the Disorganized LC in Sunny So Cal Personality Development Specialist (Full-Time Mom!) |
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Sure, LOL - whatever floats your boat.
-- Kandice Seeber Air & Earth Designs http://www.lampwork.net could we find it "stupifying" ? The Blessed Fiddy, Patroness Saint of the Disorganized LC in Sunny So Cal Personality Development Specialist (Full-Time Mom!) |
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There were at least 3 pages last time i looked...each had about 2 dozen
entries on it...maybe more. "starlia" wrote in message ... It's just my initial reaction. I know she is looking for other effects but I sure don't see a lot of beads up there yet. -- Starlia Klopman www.klopmanstudios.com |
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All right, spill the beans. I looked at the challenge and don't see no hot
rats frit! ) It was fun to go back and look though. -- -------------------------------------- Lori Greenberg www.beadnerd.com ebay: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...origre enberg "Kalera Stratton" wrote in message ... I thought that as well, but she has an excellent point... the frit challenge was earlier this year, and adding frits and metals practically guarantees that there will be very few "regular colors" reactions submitted. If you think of the Challenges as information-gleaning missions, it makes a lot more sense. At the end of this month, we will all know a LOT more about glass reactions. And if you want to know more about frit reactions, check out the Frit Challenge page... there is a certain mention (not me) of a certain frit, way back when, that is all of a sudden HOT RATS under a very different name. -Kalera http://www.beadwife.com http://www.snipurl.com/kebay |
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That's a good point about 'knowing' no one else would go that high. Makes
sense if say, you were going on vacation but wanted to make sure you got a set. I think I did that once to get Jen Geldard's "wonky" auction because I wanted it no matter what. I guess I'm glad it didn't go to what I put in. Yikes. I'll be more careful myself now! -- -------------------------------------- Lori Greenberg www.beadnerd.com ebay: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...origre enberg "Kandice Seeber" wrote in message ... I have to say that I agree with this. While $1000 is really unusual, it's an insult to call the high bidder of this auction insane. I am sure that person has a very good reason for wanthing those beads that badly, and remember that he/she was not the only one. There has to have been another bidder helping the price get that high. Like I said - maybe that person won the lottery and had her heart set on those beads at any cost. Maybe the person behind her put $100 as a high bid "knowing" no one else would "bid that high". You never know. Why are we judging this person? Can't we just be happy for them and for Corina? It's all a matter of perspective. -- Kandice Seeber Air & Earth Designs http://www.lampwork.net Lynda wrote: I'm sorry I don't care how famous you are in the lampworking circles, $1000.00 for a strand of beads? This is not Corina's fault, but lord, that's just insane.... Granted as a lampworker, I can't say I wouldn't like to find a bidder like that - lol. Why is it insane to pay that for someone's work? I'm really having a hard time understanding why anyone is that wound up about the price Corina received for her work. I sold a Barbie a year or so ago that I'd made a hand-beaded outfit for, and got $200. For a Barbie. Yup, some people would imagine that a silly plastic doll wouldn't be worth that much even with a handmade outfit. I've seen dolls go for thousands and thousands of dollars, simply because someone with the money thought the doll was worth it. I don't see why beads should not get the same respect and money as any other piece of art/craft. I buy what I like, and what I can afford. Personally wasn't that hot on that set, and sure don't have a spare $1000.00 to put towards lampwork... It only takes two people to be 'hot' on a set to get to the price they're willing to pay. For some people a thousand dollars isn't that much, it's all a question of scale. Crystals? well that's another story. I'd rather pay for the handmade item than something machine-made. -Su |
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Yeah, what is hot rats?
-- Starlia Klopman www.klopmanstudios.com "Lori Greenberg" wrote in message k.net... All right, spill the beans. I looked at the challenge and don't see no hot rats frit! ) It was fun to go back and look though. -- -------------------------------------- Lori Greenberg www.beadnerd.com ebay: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...id=lorigre en berg "Kalera Stratton" wrote in message ... I thought that as well, but she has an excellent point... the frit challenge was earlier this year, and adding frits and metals practically guarantees that there will be very few "regular colors" reactions submitted. If you think of the Challenges as information-gleaning missions, it makes a lot more sense. At the end of this month, we will all know a LOT more about glass reactions. And if you want to know more about frit reactions, check out the Frit Challenge page... there is a certain mention (not me) of a certain frit, way back when, that is all of a sudden HOT RATS under a very different name. -Kalera http://www.beadwife.com http://www.snipurl.com/kebay |
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the collector will
pay that kind of money for something they perceive as collectible art. I think it's a wonderful step forward for lampwork as an art... we're already there as a craft, but we have yet to be truly accepted as a fine art. (I'm not saying that we're all artists, but there are some lampworkers who are, and should be (and aren't) accepted as fine artists). -Kalera Even though I do hear some kvetching here and there (I don't mean in this thread) about Corina's beads not being all-that, I do think her beads are art as opposed to craft. Not every set of hers, but that's okay. Her stuff is head-and-shoulders above the majority of other lampworkers, and I think the inspiration and discovery is obvious in her glass. But it's an opinion, so feel free to disagree. (I also think there're some sour grapes out there in the Corina-kvetching....) ~~ Sooz |
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You know what I think? (Otherwise known as "Who cares -- shhh!")
I think that money is a sliding scale thing. $1000 would be a teensy drop in the bucket to me if our household income were ten times what it now is. It would be one big shrug. $1000 is *nothing* to pay for a pair of shoes, for instance, to some women. (To use an item we've been talking about in other threads....SHOES.) They *collect* Manolos. Some women think nothing of spending $20,000 for a DRESS. So, maybe the buyer of Corina's set of beads -- and her bidding-war partner there -- have lots of money. Simply put. It's all relative. (And I no longer think it's insane.) ~~ Sooz |
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