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Old January 13th 05, 01:52 PM
Jim Moore
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Default New Ebay rates!! Ouch!!

Hello all you beaders.

What might your thoughts be on this little email message I just received.

Another banner year for Ebay.
They offered free listings or fees for the Tsunami tragedy.. must be trying
to recoup there money.

Jim Moore

What was life like before Ebay?

Just click on the below URL and let me know your thoughts on this bull----




http://www2.ebay.com:80/aw/marketing...05-01-12075944


The eBay user " has sent the following message to the group:
eBay Announcements



from:
to: eBay Announcements


================================================


================================================

***eBay.com / eBay Motors Fee Changes***
Date: 01/12/05 Time: 08:03:05 AM PST

Today, we announced that eBay.com and eBay Motors will be making changes to
the fee structure effective February 18, 2005. Items that are scheduled to
begin on eBay.com or eBay Motors after midnight Pacific Time on February 18,
2005 will be charged based on the new fees.

If you have not already received an email from eBay with details of these
changes, please click here
[
http://www2.ebay.com:80/aw/marketing...5-01-12075944] to view the
detailed announcement on our Announcement Board.


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Another banner year for Ebay.
They offered free listings or fees for the Tsunami tradegdy.. must be trying
to recoup there money.

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What was life like before Ebay?





My religion is simple....
My religion is kindness...


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Old January 13th 05, 04:52 PM
LC aka Fiddy
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What was life like before Ebay?


I guess before Ebay, vendors had to find a shop to take their wares, or drive
all over creation to find craft shows, or advertise in trade magazines
exclusively and hope someone read them.

For what most folks do, I still think ebay is bargain.

The Blessed Fiddy, Patroness Saint of the Disorganized
LC in Sunny So Cal
Personality Development Specialist (Full-Time Mom!)

  #3  
Old January 13th 05, 05:36 PM
Karen_AZ
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My Ebay store is officially closed. sigh

It's becoming my fondest dream to sell only off of my website, with my own
merchant account. I'm sick of being fee'd to death.

The good news...since I'm not wasting $10/month on an Ebay store, I can
fluff up my website instead. Now where'd I put that copy of HTML for
Dummies???

KarenK


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Old January 13th 05, 07:14 PM
Kandice Seeber
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Ebay auctions are still fine for me. But the store rate increase is
ridiculous. I'm assessing my alternatives as we speak.

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net


What was life like before Ebay?


I guess before Ebay, vendors had to find a shop to take their wares, or
drive
all over creation to find craft shows, or advertise in trade magazines
exclusively and hope someone read them.

For what most folks do, I still think ebay is bargain.

The Blessed Fiddy, Patroness Saint of the Disorganized
LC in Sunny So Cal
Personality Development Specialist (Full-Time Mom!)



  #5  
Old January 13th 05, 07:18 PM
Lori Greenberg
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I think it's just the course of business. All prices rise.

From a business standpoint, I like a little higher fee. It might make
people think twice about what they list. For stores I think it helps them
to not be holding tanks for what didn't sell at auction...at least that is
what mine was at the time. It's like a bottomless free re-list pit for some
people. Sorry if that sounds callous, but I'm looking at my auctions
getting drowned in imported stuff selling for peanuts or less and I was
drowning my own auctions with my non-selling store items. I can do that
just fine on my already paid for web site, thank you very much.

As for people selling their personal stuff, it is a bit sad but just work it
into the price and there shouldn't be a problem.

I still think eBay is some of the best and least expensive advertising you
can get.

Just my thoughts.


--
--------------------------------------
Lori Greenberg
www.beadnerd.com
ebay:
http://snipurl.com/5wlc

justbeads:
http://snipurl.com/axek

"Jim Moore" wrote in message
ink.net...
Hello all you beaders.

What might your thoughts be on this little email message I just received.

Another banner year for Ebay.
They offered free listings or fees for the Tsunami tragedy.. must be
trying to recoup there money.

Jim Moore

What was life like before Ebay?

Just click on the below URL and let me know your thoughts on this bull----




http://www2.ebay.com:80/aw/marketing...05-01-12075944


The eBay user " has sent the following message to the
group: eBay Announcements



from:
to: eBay Announcements


================================================


================================================

***eBay.com / eBay Motors Fee Changes***
Date: 01/12/05 Time: 08:03:05 AM PST

Today, we announced that eBay.com and eBay Motors will be making changes
to the fee structure effective February 18, 2005. Items that are scheduled
to begin on eBay.com or eBay Motors after midnight Pacific Time on
February 18, 2005 will be charged based on the new fees.

If you have not already received an email from eBay with details of these
changes, please click here
[
http://www2.ebay.com:80/aw/marketing...5-01-12075944] to view the
detailed announcement on our Announcement Board.


================================================
Note: If you do not wish to receive this notification, please unsubscribe
from this group by clicking on the "Remove Me" link under Group Controls.

INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO SIGN UP FOR EMAIL ANNOUNCEMENTS

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announcements in email form, please have them go to the Announcement Board
Group in the Community section of eBay. They can get there by:
1) Going to www.ebay.com http://www.ebay.com
2) Clicking on Community in the top header
3) Clicking on "eBay Groups" in the "People" square
4) Going to the "News and Events" heading and clicking on the
"Announcements" link.
5) Clicking "eBay Announcements" on the next page
From this page, just click "Join Group" on the right-hand side, and you're
all set!
You can also go straight to the Announcement Board Group homepage by using
this URL: http://groups.ebay.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1072

TO GET TO THE ANNOUNCEMENT BOARD DIRECTLY:
1) Click Community in the header at the top of almost every eBay page
2) Click on "General Announcements" in the "News" box
Please note: Please do not reply to these emails, as we will be unable to
answer them. Thanks!


Note: Some group members may not be able to view messages with HTML tags.
They can change their group Preference by selecting the HTML button next
to the 'Receive email in' option.

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(http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-priv.html) and User Agreement
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questions.

Copyright © 2004 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective
owners.

eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc.

eBay is located at 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125

Another banner year for Ebay.
They offered free listings or fees for the Tsunami tradegdy.. must be
trying to recoup there money.

Jim Moore

What was life like before Ebay?





My religion is simple....
My religion is kindness...


Tenzin Gyatso
AKA The 14th Dalai Lama



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Old January 13th 05, 07:25 PM
Kandice Seeber
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I understand slight increases at regular intervals. But this is a huge
increase. 60-100%.
I agree that for auctions, this isn't a huge deal, and can even help cull
the imported stuff and bring us some exposure.

But for stores, this is major, and it will be reflected in glass prices on
ebay for sure - and likely bead prices as well. Not good for the buyers.

I do agree that this means that people will likely move inventory to
off-ebay websites, and buyers will move with that inventory. Not good for
ebay. But oh, well. LOL

Why I will probably do is close my store, have a huge sale and then keep
doing auctions. Auctions are good advertising for sure. But the basic ebay
storefront has become useless. If they are going to raise the prices, they
need to raise the exposure that stores get.

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net

I think it's just the course of business. All prices rise.

From a business standpoint, I like a little higher fee. It might make
people think twice about what they list. For stores I think it helps them
to not be holding tanks for what didn't sell at auction...at least that is
what mine was at the time. It's like a bottomless free re-list pit for
some people. Sorry if that sounds callous, but I'm looking at my auctions
getting drowned in imported stuff selling for peanuts or less and I was
drowning my own auctions with my non-selling store items. I can do that
just fine on my already paid for web site, thank you very much.

As for people selling their personal stuff, it is a bit sad but just work
it into the price and there shouldn't be a problem.

I still think eBay is some of the best and least expensive advertising you
can get.

Just my thoughts.


--
--------------------------------------
Lori Greenberg
www.beadnerd.com
ebay:
http://snipurl.com/5wlc

justbeads:
http://snipurl.com/axek

"Jim Moore" wrote in message
ink.net...
Hello all you beaders.

What might your thoughts be on this little email message I just received.

Another banner year for Ebay.
They offered free listings or fees for the Tsunami tragedy.. must be
trying to recoup there money.

Jim Moore

What was life like before Ebay?

Just click on the below URL and let me know your thoughts on this
bull----




http://www2.ebay.com:80/aw/marketing...05-01-12075944


The eBay user " has sent the following message to the
group: eBay Announcements



from:
to: eBay Announcements


================================================


================================================

***eBay.com / eBay Motors Fee Changes***
Date: 01/12/05 Time: 08:03:05 AM PST

Today, we announced that eBay.com and eBay Motors will be making changes
to the fee structure effective February 18, 2005. Items that are
scheduled to begin on eBay.com or eBay Motors after midnight Pacific Time
on February 18, 2005 will be charged based on the new fees.

If you have not already received an email from eBay with details of these
changes, please click here
[
http://www2.ebay.com:80/aw/marketing...5-01-12075944] to view the
detailed announcement on our Announcement Board.


================================================
Note: If you do not wish to receive this notification, please unsubscribe
from this group by clicking on the "Remove Me" link under Group Controls.

INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO SIGN UP FOR EMAIL ANNOUNCEMENTS

If you know of anyone else who you think would like to receive our
announcements in email form, please have them go to the Announcement
Board
Group in the Community section of eBay. They can get there by:
1) Going to www.ebay.com http://www.ebay.com
2) Clicking on Community in the top header
3) Clicking on "eBay Groups" in the "People" square
4) Going to the "News and Events" heading and clicking on the
"Announcements" link.
5) Clicking "eBay Announcements" on the next page
From this page, just click "Join Group" on the right-hand side, and
you're
all set!
You can also go straight to the Announcement Board Group homepage by
using
this URL: http://groups.ebay.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1072

TO GET TO THE ANNOUNCEMENT BOARD DIRECTLY:
1) Click Community in the header at the top of almost every eBay page
2) Click on "General Announcements" in the "News" box
Please note: Please do not reply to these emails, as we will be unable to
answer them. Thanks!


Note: Some group members may not be able to view messages with HTML tags.
They can change their group Preference by selecting the HTML button next
to the 'Receive email in' option.

If you do not wish to receive email communications from this group, log
on to groups.ebay.com and then select "My Groups." From there, click
"Prefs" next to the group name and select the "No" check box next to
"Receive email sent to the entire group."

Visit our Privacy Policy
(http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-priv.html) and User Agreement
(http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-user.html) if you have any
questions.

Copyright © 2004 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective
owners.

eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc.

eBay is located at 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125

Another banner year for Ebay.
They offered free listings or fees for the Tsunami tradegdy.. must be
trying to recoup there money.

Jim Moore

What was life like before Ebay?





My religion is simple....
My religion is kindness...


Tenzin Gyatso
AKA The 14th Dalai Lama





  #7  
Old January 13th 05, 09:18 PM
Jim Moore
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I guess a rate increase is OK. Ebay is still the cheapest way to sell your
"stuff"
What annoys me is there annual notices of having a "Banner Year" and thanks
to all you sellers and buyers for making Ebay such a success!! Then......a
month later comes a rate increase. Greed?

I am an old man in my 70's. I'm a retired jeweler. A real jeweler who was
able to cast, channel set diamonds, cut stones and everything else that went
with it. I could do it all. Now my eyes are not so good and I'm too old to
do shows anymore. I used to sell gemstones. mostly precious and mount them
while you wait in custom settings that I had made out of gold.

A few years ago I saw someone make a lampwork bead and fell in love
instantly. Now I make a few bucks to supplement my Soc. Sec. and that works
out pretty good. But if Meg keeps on jacking up the price to peddle my
"stuff" on her site, I will have to change my plan.

I also have a website www.terrafirmabeads.com It seems that the people that
I sell to on ebay (many repeat customers) will not buy from my website. I
even offer free shipping. I just don't get it.

Just more thoughts...

Jim ) AKA The Old Man and the Bead


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Old January 13th 05, 09:22 PM
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You know, it's not as if eBay doesn't make a ton of money. Why the
rate increase? Sheesh.

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Old January 13th 05, 09:28 PM
Mj
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I have reached a resistance point for my bead prices and have been fighting
the Wally World mentality that seems to permeate the bead market on eBay.
Once the increases go into effect I will be effectively forking over 11% of
every sale I make to eBay in the form of insertion fees, final value fees
AND PayPal fees. And that doesn't cover the cost of my store subscription,
my auction management program subscription and my eBay reports subscription,
which will come to another $46.00 a month. And what do I get for all of
that?? No exposure when people do searches because store items don't
regularly show up in the results.

So while the store idea worked for me, saved me money in the long run for
insertion fees, this increase may just prove to be the final nail in the
coffin of Halsey Trading Company. Haven't made a final decision yet, but I
may just close the business down this spring. I'm even thinking of trashing
my trip to Tucson and just eating the airfare cost - don't really want to
pay out more money for hotel/car rental if I'm not staying in business.

Perhaps it's just time to move on to something else!

Mj

--
=================================
Marjean Cline
Halsey Trading Company
eBay ID: ladymorgause
http://stores.ebay.com/Halsey-Tradin...ny?refid=store
=================================
"Kandice Seeber" wrote in message
...
I understand slight increases at regular intervals. But this is a huge
increase. 60-100%.
I agree that for auctions, this isn't a huge deal, and can even help cull
the imported stuff and bring us some exposure.

But for stores, this is major, and it will be reflected in glass prices on
ebay for sure - and likely bead prices as well. Not good for the buyers.

I do agree that this means that people will likely move inventory to
off-ebay websites, and buyers will move with that inventory. Not good for
ebay. But oh, well. LOL

Why I will probably do is close my store, have a huge sale and then keep
doing auctions. Auctions are good advertising for sure. But the basic
ebay storefront has become useless. If they are going to raise the
prices, they need to raise the exposure that stores get.

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net

I think it's just the course of business. All prices rise.

From a business standpoint, I like a little higher fee. It might make
people think twice about what they list. For stores I think it helps
them to not be holding tanks for what didn't sell at auction...at least
that is what mine was at the time. It's like a bottomless free re-list
pit for some people. Sorry if that sounds callous, but I'm looking at my
auctions getting drowned in imported stuff selling for peanuts or less
and I was drowning my own auctions with my non-selling store items. I
can do that just fine on my already paid for web site, thank you very
much.

As for people selling their personal stuff, it is a bit sad but just work
it into the price and there shouldn't be a problem.

I still think eBay is some of the best and least expensive advertising
you can get.

Just my thoughts.


--
--------------------------------------
Lori Greenberg
www.beadnerd.com
ebay:
http://snipurl.com/5wlc

justbeads:
http://snipurl.com/axek

"Jim Moore" wrote in message
ink.net...
Hello all you beaders.

What might your thoughts be on this little email message I just
received.

Another banner year for Ebay.
They offered free listings or fees for the Tsunami tragedy.. must be
trying to recoup there money.

Jim Moore

What was life like before Ebay?

Just click on the below URL and let me know your thoughts on this
bull----




http://www2.ebay.com:80/aw/marketing...05-01-12075944


The eBay user " has sent the following message to the
group: eBay Announcements



from:
to: eBay Announcements


================================================


================================================

***eBay.com / eBay Motors Fee Changes***
Date: 01/12/05 Time: 08:03:05 AM PST

Today, we announced that eBay.com and eBay Motors will be making changes
to the fee structure effective February 18, 2005. Items that are
scheduled to begin on eBay.com or eBay Motors after midnight Pacific
Time on February 18, 2005 will be charged based on the new fees.

If you have not already received an email from eBay with details of
these changes, please click here
[
http://www2.ebay.com:80/aw/marketing...5-01-12075944] to view
the detailed announcement on our Announcement Board.


================================================
Note: If you do not wish to receive this notification, please
unsubscribe
from this group by clicking on the "Remove Me" link under Group
Controls.

INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO SIGN UP FOR EMAIL ANNOUNCEMENTS

If you know of anyone else who you think would like to receive our
announcements in email form, please have them go to the Announcement
Board
Group in the Community section of eBay. They can get there by:
1) Going to www.ebay.com http://www.ebay.com
2) Clicking on Community in the top header
3) Clicking on "eBay Groups" in the "People" square
4) Going to the "News and Events" heading and clicking on the
"Announcements" link.
5) Clicking "eBay Announcements" on the next page
From this page, just click "Join Group" on the right-hand side, and
you're
all set!
You can also go straight to the Announcement Board Group homepage by
using
this URL: http://groups.ebay.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1072

TO GET TO THE ANNOUNCEMENT BOARD DIRECTLY:
1) Click Community in the header at the top of almost every eBay page
2) Click on "General Announcements" in the "News" box
Please note: Please do not reply to these emails, as we will be unable
to
answer them. Thanks!


Note: Some group members may not be able to view messages with HTML
tags. They can change their group Preference by selecting the HTML
button next to the 'Receive email in' option.

If you do not wish to receive email communications from this group, log
on to groups.ebay.com and then select "My Groups." From there, click
"Prefs" next to the group name and select the "No" check box next to
"Receive email sent to the entire group."

Visit our Privacy Policy
(http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-priv.html) and User Agreement
(http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-user.html) if you have any
questions.

Copyright © 2004 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective
owners.

eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc.

eBay is located at 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125

Another banner year for Ebay.
They offered free listings or fees for the Tsunami tradegdy.. must be
trying to recoup there money.

Jim Moore

What was life like before Ebay?





My religion is simple....
My religion is kindness...


Tenzin Gyatso
AKA The 14th Dalai Lama







  #10  
Old January 13th 05, 09:47 PM
Polly Stewart
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Dr. Sooz wrote:
You know, it's not as if eBay doesn't make a ton of money. Why the
rate increase? Sheesh.

My thoughts exactly... one of the fast growing, most successful (read:
money-making) companies in, like, forever!!!!!
 




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