Real time posts?

I haven't posted to Rec.crafts.glass for several years. One thing I
don't understand is, why is there no real time posting? And, why does
it seem like some people view new posts sooner than others? From the
emails I've gotten, people were responding to my post long before I
saw it show up on the net.

David W wrote:

I haven't posted to Rec.crafts.glass for several years. One thing I
don't understand is, why is there no real time posting? And, why does
it seem like some people view new posts sooner than others? From the
emails I've gotten, people were responding to my post long before I
saw it show up on the net.

What is real time. When I post it's up a few seconds later. Delays are
caused by particular servers taking longer to get something posted or to
show what has been posted. Maybe.

Jack

On 2 Dec 2004 17:27:30 -0800, David W wrote:
I haven't posted to Rec.crafts.glass for several years. One thing I
don't understand is, why is there no real time posting? And, why does
it seem like some people view new posts sooner than others? From the
emails I've gotten, people were responding to my post long before I
saw it show up on the net.

Google is slow about adding posts to the viewable part of its archive.
Check with your ISP; you might have a different way to read Usenet News
that will give you better response times.

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"David W" wrote in message
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I haven't posted to Rec.crafts.glass for several years. One thing I
don't understand is, why is there no real time posting? And, why does
it seem like some people view new posts sooner than others? From the
emails I've gotten, people were responding to my post long before I
saw it show up on the net.


Posts go to servers, then appear seconds or minutes later. If you want
realtime you need instant messenger.

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On 2 Dec 2004 17:27:30 -0800, David W wrote:
I haven't posted to Rec.crafts.glass for several years. One thing I
don't understand is, why is there no real time posting? And, why does
it seem like some people view new posts sooner than others? From the
emails I've gotten, people were responding to my post long before I
saw it show up on the net.

You're reading and posting from the google archive.
It's not meant to be real time, and probably never will be.

If you want something approaching real time (a few
seconds for most of us), you need to get a newsreader
(you probably already have one... it just needs to
be configured) and in the "server" section, put
"news.maui.net."

If your ISP's contracted news server (newsguy.com)
isn't up to your expectations, there are several free
text-only NNTP servers that seem to satisfy millions of
users.

nJb wrote in message ...
What is real time. When I post it's up a few seconds later. Delays are
caused by particular servers taking longer to get something posted or to
show what has been posted. Maybe.

Jack

See there's what I mean. Mine takes hours to show up. All day even.
But yours are up in seconds. Could it really be my isp? It sends
everything else, like other board posts, email, etc right away.

David W wrote:

nJb wrote in message ...
What is real time. When I post it's up a few seconds later. Delays are
caused by particular servers taking longer to get something posted or to
show what has been posted. Maybe.

Jack

See there's what I mean. Mine takes hours to show up. All day even.
But yours are up in seconds. Could it really be my isp? It sends
everything else, like other board posts, email, etc right away.



What Steve Ackman said. Google is the slow link.

Jack

In article ,
(David W) wrote:

See there's what I mean. Mine takes hours to show up. All day even.
But yours are up in seconds. Could it really be my isp? It sends
everything else, like other board posts, email, etc right away.

I think it'd be worth your while to do a bit of reading-up on how Usenet
works. It was never intended to be anything near a real-time means of
communication. There are no guarantees about when a message that you
post to your news-server will be replicated to my news-server so that I
can read it.

It may take hours. It may be that my news-server will decide to purge
your message before I've even had a chance to read it. All bets are off.

You're apt to feel better sooner by learning how it works, than by
fretting about why it isn't working the way you think it should.

--
Joel.

http://www.cv6.org/
"May she also say with just pride:
I have done the State some service."

Joel Shepherd wrote in message ...
In article ,
(David W) wrote:

See there's what I mean. Mine takes hours to show up. All day even.
But yours are up in seconds. Could it really be my isp? It sends
everything else, like other board posts, email, etc right away.

I think it'd be worth your while to do a bit of reading-up on how Usenet
works. It was never intended to be anything near a real-time means of
communication. There are no guarantees about when a message that you
post to your news-server will be replicated to my news-server so that I
can read it.

It may take hours. It may be that my news-server will decide to purge
your message before I've even had a chance to read it. All bets are off.

You're apt to feel better sooner by learning how it works, than by
fretting about why it isn't working the way you think it should.


Okay, well thanks for the explanation. I was curious because it didn't
seem like it was like this before when I used the usenet. But that's
been, at least three or four years and several hardrives and OS. I got
a kick out of your suggestion that learning about how the usenet works
might make me feel better. In fact, that would make me want to open a
large vein.

Another factor that I have noticed is that various combinations of ISP,
mail reader, and operating system (mine are Ticnet/Waymark, Outlook Express
6, and XP) produce different results. Messages that I post are noted as
being unread almost instantly, apparently because somewhere in the software
chain, it recognizes that what I post is coming back to me even though I
haven't asked OE to look for group updates. On my wife's machine,
(Mindspring, OE, 98) the availability is slower, apparently based on the
server software going and looking at the news group server.

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"David W" wrote in message
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I haven't posted to Rec.crafts.glass for several years. One thing I
don't understand is, why is there no real time posting? And, why does
it seem like some people view new posts sooner than others? From the
emails I've gotten, people were responding to my post long before I
saw it show up on the net.