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Old November 22nd 04, 06:02 PM
fipodes
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Default Glass stainers colors from Reusche

Hi all
My name name is Filippo. I live in Italy, and 'am painter on glass only
about 3 years.

I need some info on Reusche colors:
what are the differences beetween all the "white" colors offered by Reusche
manufacturer?
In catalog they have different withe:
obscuring white 1400GS
matting white 1402A
white D201581
satin white D2070
white (again) D2617
satin etch D2788
white DX603
white DX660
white D20511
white DX692

There is somebody who can explain me the differences? i KNOW THE DIRENCES
ABOUT ENAMELS, TRANSPARENT, BLENDABLE BLENDING......but not their specific
use. Why or/and when use this one instead an other white.
Many thanks.

Filippo from Italy



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Old November 23rd 04, 02:36 AM
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The problem is that you have gone and taken White's from many different
lists. Go back and look at the lists. You will find that all those
categories you say you know about plus you will find, on the lists I looked
at, the temperature that the colors fire at - some are low, some higher but
will stay together through sagging of the glass for those who want to do it.
Also, some of the white's have different compatibility with different glass.
Obscuring White presumably blocks over other colors while some of the others
would allow a color behind to show through. Satin White is a non-gloss
surface. Satin Etch is probably a white that looks like sand blasting or
etching.

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"fipodes" wrote in message
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Hi all
My name name is Filippo. I live in Italy, and 'am painter on glass only
about 3 years.

I need some info on Reusche colors:
what are the differences beetween all the "white" colors offered by
Reusche
manufacturer?
In catalog they have different withe:
obscuring white 1400GS
matting white 1402A
white D201581
satin white D2070
white (again) D2617
satin etch D2788
white DX603
white DX660
white D20511
white DX692

There is somebody who can explain me the differences? i KNOW THE DIRENCES
ABOUT ENAMELS, TRANSPARENT, BLENDABLE BLENDING......but not their specific
use. Why or/and when use this one instead an other white.
Many thanks.

Filippo from Italy





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Old November 23rd 04, 01:36 PM
fipodes
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Hi Mike
thank you to answer me.
You are right: there are colors from differents lists.
What I need is know if some colors (white colors in this case) are subjet to
follow some laws: requiered firing first the others colors (for example),
what type of "white" you obtain, etc...
some description are right: satin, etch, etc.....
but, others description are....... "deceitful": see the four articles
whiches are in the same categorie, but all with the simple description
"white"....

Are you painter too, Mike? what kind of stained glass do you prefer?

Best regards.

Filippo from Italy



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Old November 24th 04, 12:38 AM
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No, I am not a painter of anything but my own blown glass.
There are no "laws". The melting temps show which colors will set at
lower temps than those already set. You will have to run experiments to see
how various colors melt. All the lists of Rausch colors I looked at had
only one white, so named, in each list, with other named whites on some
lists, so someone rearranged the list you were looking at. You are a lot
closer to Rausch (in Germany) than I am.

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Mike Firth
Hot Glass Bits Furnace Working Website
http://users.ticnet.com/mikefirth/hotbit46.htm Latest notes

"fipodes" wrote in message
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Hi Mike
thank you to answer me.
You are right: there are colors from differents lists.
What I need is know if some colors (white colors in this case) are subjet
to
follow some laws: requiered firing first the others colors (for example),
what type of "white" you obtain, etc...
some description are right: satin, etch, etc.....
but, others description are....... "deceitful": see the four articles
whiches are in the same categorie, but all with the simple description
"white"....

Are you painter too, Mike? what kind of stained glass do you prefer?

Best regards.

Filippo from Italy





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Old November 25th 04, 12:55 PM
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There is a page in Albinus Elskus' 'the Art of Painting on Glass' that
describes the use of what he calls 'obscuring white'. He lists 1400GS,
1402A, and D20511 as examples of obscuring white. You should obtain that
book if at all possible Filippo.

Albinus states that obscuring white is used to reduce the transparency of
colored glass without changing the color of the original piece.

I use D2617 painted heavily with a water medium to make an opaque shiney
white enamel.



 




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