What do you think about......?

Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was
just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I
looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a
database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be
used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files
and just a wealth of other despositories.

With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in
the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for
all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place
for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc.

One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once
in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group.
It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the
open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the
database, limits access to the other areas as well.

I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all
the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any
insights to this with Yahoo Groups?

Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory
information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by
the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can
be confirmed would be allowed into the Group.

Ok, what do you think?

On 14 Jul 2006 09:21:21 -0700, "AliceW in NJ"
wrote:

Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was
just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I
looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a
database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be
used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files
and just a wealth of other despositories.

I purely detest Yahoo.
However, they bought every darn mail group I belonged to, so I am kind
of stuck with them.

One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once
in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group.
It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the
open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the
database, limits access to the other areas as well.

I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all
the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any
insights to this with Yahoo Groups?

I went an poked around the managment section of the group I got
suckered into helping moderate.
Any feature can be limited to moderators only, while leaving the rest
of the features open to the group.
So if you wanted to do this with a single group, you would have to
make everybody in the directory a moderator. While this appeals to my
Erisian sensibilities, I can see potential problems with it.
Since the whole mess is password protected, you could in theory create
a group just for the directory.

Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory
information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by
the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can
be confirmed would be allowed into the Group.


I think a lot of people would be uncomfortable with the idea of
putting the directory into a web accessible place. They would have a
point. Yahoo is one of the most heavily hacked and attacked places
online. Plus you know that when they did one of their infamous
upgrades would be right exactly when you need to get a dozen adresses.
The most irksome part though would be that people who do not regularly
access Yahoo would almost certainly have to nag a mod to regain access
at least once, probably more. If you do not sign in and access your
group(s) regularly Yahoo tends to forget who you are and what you are
there for. I took a month off once and it took two more to figure out
how to convince Yahoo to allow me to post again. Since I am doing the
mod thing now, 9/10s of my duties seem to be involved with helping
people get back into the group after Yahoo has forgeotten that they
are members.

NightMist
--
The wolf that understands fire has much to eat.

Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place?
[...]
Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory
information?

Yahoo passes addresses on to spammers. It'd be crazy to use them
for this.

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Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/ for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557

I'm in a couple of swap where we use Yahoo for address and other
information. I guess security is ok.

However, if we make it a "resource center" for RCTQ, then anyone not
joining the group is left out. And I believe the only way to restrict
access to directory information there is to restrict access to the whole
site. so those not wanting their info in the directory won't be able to
access the resource site.

Personally, I (sometimes) follow people's links when they are posted,
but I don't go looking for pics etc very often. I doubt I would use the
group except for directory purposes.

If setting one up makes directory keeping easier, then I would suggest
you just do it for the directory - but that is only my opinion. I do
think it would be easier to maintain the directory, as people would be
doing that themselves by updating their own info. As to joining, we
would still need to get an invite, so it could be along the lines of
posting on RCTQ "if you want to join, please email Alice". And then you
check if they are known to the newsgroup and send them an invite.


Hanne in London



AliceW in NJ wrote:
Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was
just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I
looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a
database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be
used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files
and just a wealth of other despositories.

With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in
the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for
all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place
for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc.

One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once
in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group.
It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the
open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the
database, limits access to the other areas as well.

I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all
the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any
insights to this with Yahoo Groups?

Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory
information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by
the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can
be confirmed would be allowed into the Group.

Ok, what do you think?

I don't think I'd be comfortable, nor would it be convenient for me, to have
all the directory information online.

Karen, Queen of Squishies



Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was
just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I
looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a
database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be
used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files
and just a wealth of other despositories.

With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in
the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for
all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place
for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc.

One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once
in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group.
It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the
open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the
database, limits access to the other areas as well.

I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all
the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any
insights to this with Yahoo Groups?

Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory
information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by
the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can
be confirmed would be allowed into the Group.

Ok, what do you think?

Howdy!

Directory: I don't care; y'all do as you please. g
Wouldn't you have to have 2 yahoo groups, one for the directory
for those insiders and the other group for those who aren't
in the directory but would want to be included in the "stuff" portion?

The other "stuff" is in at least one place, via the Google archives.

Other thoughts about this issue: keep it simple.
Too many rules and regs are just too much trouble to handle;
the moderator goes off somewhere and the group is stuck w/
no access to change things. ISPs work differently, some would
have easier access, others wouldn't. Some can get in, some can't--
that does seem awfully American, tho', some are entitled,
some are more worthy ....g ISSUES would come up, more issues.
Hurt feelings, impatience, confusion--sheesh!
It's summer here; that's enough trouble. 8-
Too many rules and regs gets to be like a few quilt guilds I know,
over-organized and not as much fun.
We're all so good at answering questions about RCTQ right here
on RCTQ!!!!--imagine that-- why put the answers elsewhere?
That's my thoughts, answering the subject line question.

Your mileage will vary. Good luck.

Ragmop/Sandy--cool in the a/c ;-P




On 7/14/06 1:01 PM, in article e98m66$v12$1@qmul, "Hanne Gottliebsen"
wrote:

I'm in a couple of swap where we use Yahoo for address and other
information. I guess security is ok.

However, if we make it a "resource center" for RCTQ, then anyone not
joining the group is left out. And I believe the only way to restrict
access to directory information there is to restrict access to the whole
site. so those not wanting their info in the directory won't be able to
access the resource site.

Personally, I (sometimes) follow people's links when they are posted,
but I don't go looking for pics etc very often. I doubt I would use the
group except for directory purposes.

If setting one up makes directory keeping easier, then I would suggest
you just do it for the directory - but that is only my opinion. I do
think it would be easier to maintain the directory, as people would be
doing that themselves by updating their own info. As to joining, we
would still need to get an invite, so it could be along the lines of
posting on RCTQ "if you want to join, please email Alice". And then you
check if they are known to the newsgroup and send them an invite.


Hanne in London



AliceW in NJ wrote:
Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was
just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I
looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a
database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be
used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files
and just a wealth of other despositories.

With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in
the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for
all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place
for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc.

One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once
in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group.
It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the
open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the
database, limits access to the other areas as well.

I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all
the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any
insights to this with Yahoo Groups?

Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory
information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by
the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can
be confirmed would be allowed into the Group.

Ok, what do you think?

This is not true - you can set the group to allow members almost anything :
start a Poll, a database, file, post a picture there is no need to make them
all moderators to do this.

--
Jessamy
In The Netherlands
Take out: so much quilting to reply.
Time to accept, time to grow, time to take things slow
www.geocities.com/jess_ayad
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jes...pson/my_photos
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I went an poked around the managment section of the group I got
suckered into helping moderate.
Any feature can be limited to moderators only, while leaving the rest
of the features open to the group.
So if you wanted to do this with a single group, you would have to
make everybody in the directory a moderator. While this appeals to my
Erisian sensibilities, I can see potential problems with it.
Since the whole mess is password protected, you could in theory create
a group just for the directory.

NightMist
--
The wolf that understands fire has much to eat.

to be honest I'd rather not - for starters it's online and not on my
computer and can't be downloaded for use on a computer

--
Jessamy
In The Netherlands
Take out: so much quilting to reply.
Time to accept, time to grow, time to take things slow
www.geocities.com/jess_ayad
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jes...pson/my_photos
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was
just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I
looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a
database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be
used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files
and just a wealth of other despositories.

With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in
the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for
all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place
for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc.

One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once
in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group.
It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the
open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the
database, limits access to the other areas as well.

I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all
the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any
insights to this with Yahoo Groups?

Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory
information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by
the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can
be confirmed would be allowed into the Group.

Ok, what do you think?

Well, thanks for your responses. I don't think we need to go any
further with that idea!
I don't want to risk any problems with the Directory, so we'll keep the
process the same as we have been doing it. No problem!

Alice who has now gone to the Directory form to start dusting it off!

AliceW in NJ wrote:
Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was
just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I
looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a
database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be
used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files
and just a wealth of other despositories.

With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in
the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for
all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place
for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc.

One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once
in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group.
It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the
open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the
database, limits access to the other areas as well.

I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all
the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any
insights to this with Yahoo Groups?

Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory
information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by
the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can
be confirmed would be allowed into the Group.

Ok, what do you think?

thanks, Alice, cuz i just dont feel much like thinking today.
whewwww, got out of yet another thot process that gets me nowhere.
jeanne
--
san-fran at ihug dot co dot nz
nzlstar on yahoo msg'r
nzlstar on webshots
gen.gen.co.nz

"AliceW in NJ" wrote...
Well, thanks for your responses. I don't think we need to go any
further with that idea!
I don't want to risk any problems with the Directory, so we'll keep the
process the same as we have been doing it. No problem!

Alice who has now gone to the Directory form to start dusting it off!


AliceW in NJ wrote:
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Ok, what do you think?