Ok I know I haven't posted much in along while but reading this topic made
me realize that I am not the only one out there on this not so big blue
marble any more.
I am in my soon to be late 30's and I have no clue as how to use a curling
iron, curlers or how to French braid my own hair, doing someone else's hair
I have no problem with, just mine. Being blessed or cursed depending how I
feel on any given day with naturally wavy to curly hair, I have it cut short
to help with any problems hair wise. As for make up , I guess I was lucky
being able to learn from my mother who used to be a nutri-medics, make up
sales rep at one time. Plus as a teen on weekends when I had nothing planned
I played with make up finding my own style, granted I hardly wear make up
now, considering the work that I do and having odd skin to boot, it cant
make up its mind if it wants to be normal, dry or oily. When I do put on the
war paint its a very soft natural look, where it looks like I don't have any
thing on but there is something a bit more added. I just use make up from
the drug store, Revlon, L'Oreal and some times Marcell (sp?) Being prone to
break outs myself mainly due to stress and Horrormoans, I mainly just use
water to clean my face, but when I use make up , to clean my face I just use
Oil of Olay cleansing cloths, works great and gentle on sensitive skin,
fragrance free to boot, my skin loves it.
I guess what you can gather from all this is experiment in your free
time, sure you may go through the war paint a bit faster then normal but
defiantly do what some of the others are suggesting go Mary Kay to learn the
basic's then fine tune it to work for you. Hope it helps
Dawn in Alberta
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When life gets you down , Get up and Mambo
John Candy
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"Tricia" wrote in message
ups.com...
No offense to our male readers/quilters, but this topic is weighing on
my mind right now and needs discussing AFAIC....Also, right away, let
me say, I know there is much more to being a woman than make up and
hair styles and such. Those other (and yes, much more important)
things AREN'T the things I want to discuss in this thread. I had
*great* role models for being a strong, self-sufficient (and
self-sacrificing) woman. Please don't flame me for trivalizing what it
means to be a woman. If you find this topic offensive, I'm sorry, I
don't mean to offend anyone or incite a riot.

I think most of us would probably say that the teen years is the WHEN
in regards to learning to be a "woman" rather than a "girl". During my
teen years my life was pretty screwed up (mom and stepass getting
divorced, long lost father back in my life, acquiring a stepmother,
living with an abusive alcoholic, etc. PLUS all the usual teen angst
issues). Somewhat as a result (I think) something "short circuited" in
my development in *how* to be a woman rather than a girl, or rather in
some other regards, being an adult vs a child. I didn't have role
models for what I'm facing now in any regard.

Specific to the Woman v Girl thing, I know virtually nothing about make
up, let alone how to properly apply it so I don't look like clown or
tramp. Forget trying to style my hair (although I have a little more
knowledge on that) in anything other than a basic flyaway ponytail --
it's basically not happening (these days it's more like getting me to
do anything other than use a headband 'cause it only makes a stubby
tail). Occassionally I get a perm. I can't manage to use curlers to
save my soul, not even the nice heated ones DH got me a few years ago
at my request. Basically when it comes to being "pretty", "feminine",
and "done up", I friggin' suck.

Part of it is having been raised with the mantra that God blessed me
and I didn't need make up and stuff to mask it all. For the most part,
I believe the philosophy (in the sense that we are the way we are
supposed to be, etc.) and while I tended to leave God out of it,
frequently shared that philosophy with my students (middle schoolers)
when the question inevitably came up why I was one of maybe two or
three female teachers in our building who didn't wear make-up. That
was fine in that enviroment -- I might have gotten more respect from
some of the adults I dealt with if I had been "done up" but I got
through it okay.

I suspect something that is hindering my ability to get hired lately is
the fact that I don't "do" make up and such -- with my baby face (and
unfortunately being noticably overweight), I tend to look younger than
my age, which at times translates for some (I suspect) as flighty or
incompetent. -- or like I just "don't care" (current hormone issues
resulting in pimples doesn't help dispel that myth either).

Besides the employment issue, I have been pondering trying to find out
how to "do" make up properly for a while now -- simply so I *can* do it
when the mood/situation strikes -- like going out for a nice evening
with my husband or to a wedding, etc.

Hence, realizing I have virtually no knowledge in an area many women
seem to have plenty, I thought I'd ask where that knowledge came
from...where did you learn it?

Pondering,
Tricia