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Buying from a message board chatroom post? Not exactly the three
tier
system. Dennis has this need to denegrate, insult, threaten, and
turn off
just about everyone he can. Why is the question?



Why try to protect the antique 3 tier system? The internet has
already
buried it.
Adapt or die!


OK Dennis I'm being perfectly civil here. In all seriousness, how is
your
teaching method any different than what I've been teaching for over 20
years? I've taught thousands. Part of my lecture talks about selling
work
to make money, but very very few actually make it. I know because
they have
become friendly competitors of mine. I'm sure like a surgeon, you
keep
records of the success and failure of your students. How many basement
bandits have you taught, and how many of these self styled students of
yours
are making a living at doing glass and how about with your kiln formed
glasswork you rave about? How much do you charge? I'm not being
cynical,
only trying to understand what you're doing, and why it's different
than
what the rest of us do?


--
JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

What percentage? I've no idea, but over the 30 years I've been
teaching Business Administration and Entrepreneurial Management, I've
helped several hundred individuals create successful enterprises.

What do I charge? University class fees vary as set by the university.
My personal fees vary for different lengths of class and whether the
classes are "brick and mortar" or internet online. In many cases, I
supply free "mentoring". There are some 50 artisans that regularly
contact me for advice and assistance.

What's different than what the rest of you do? I teach artisans that
they should make every effort to innovate - to ignore how others do
business and create their own business style. What's got you and your
compadres here ****ed off is my persistent suggestion that artisans
shouldn't be dealing with retail shops. I suggest that anyone that
buys supplies to be made into a product for resale should be buying at
the same place and price as the retailer. Many here, are worried about
competition from low overhead "basement bandits", I teach individuals
to start their business with the lowest possible overhead and to use
that cost advantage to create a market for their work. Starting off
with low prices is always a workable way for any business to get
started. An established business relies on their reputation to
generate business. A newcomer has no reputation so must rely instead
on ability and willingness to "work cheap". That's an advantage I
recommend they use. There's nothing new about that suggestion. Lots
of business instructors make it. You just don't like having to compete
with those that have taken that advice.

Times change. Some have chosen to whine about their inability to
effectively deal with those changes. I'm teaching people how to find
ways to take advantage of those changes. One of the things I'm
teaching retailers and artisans, is that stained glass is diminishing
in popularity while kilnforming is increasing - and that new materials
and equipment will soon make hot glass (blowing and casting) the next
big thing in glass art. I expect glass casting to soon become as
popular as kilnforming - and expect stained glass to continue to
diminish in popularity. You can hang on to the old ways, or accept and
adopt the new ones. Adapt or die!

Okay, then die! Dennis, if you were anywhere near as smart as you
obviously think you are, you would reaalize that alienating the entire
glass community is hardly the paradigm of a successful business plan.
You cannot post on any board on the internet without someone slamming
you immediately. Believe me, it is not jealousy, it is the fact you are
a complete and total asshole.



".......it is the fact you are a complete and total asshole."

I said that about 2 years ago and seemed like nobody believed me! I need
credit for quotes, no plagiarism here...