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Old August 7th 03, 12:52 AM
nzl*
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i started a reply the other day to her original post, as i often do to spam
here.
i got lost in the mix of 'sales and donations'.
i'm glad you've explained the general position of rctq so eloquently for
me/us, Kate.
can we add this to our 'files' for future reference/use if its ever required
again.
hugz, Kate.
jeanne
nzl*
currently showing as #13 on the list of frequent posters but i'm sure thats
incorrect as i'm so quiet and reserved most of the time, just sitting off in
the corner twinkling, munchin' on cyber chocolate and fondling fabric with
glee

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but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying,
"Damn...that was fun!"
i'll be there!!! will you???


"Kate Dicey" wrote...
| Having read this thread through careful before commenting, I would just
| say:
|
| You caused severe offence by trying to sell ANYTHING he this is a
| NEWS group, not a marketplace group, and selling anything is very
| severely frowned upon. You would have done better to read the rules for
| news groups in general, where this is clearly set set out, and for this
| group in particular, which has fought a long hard battle against
| spammers. You would also have done much better to lurk for a day or two
| and READ all the posts, to see what sort of a group this is, or to ASK
| if posting ads was acceptable and to be shown the charter for this
| group. Instead you jumped in with both feet and landed on a lot of
| sensibilities, bruising them. You ignored the social mores of the
| group, and you wonder why you got a poor reception? Your personal
| circumstances, severe though they may be, are irrelevant to this issue.
|
| You will have to understand that we will also remain sceptical about the
| person you say sent you here. Were they a regular poster and taking a
| full part in what goes on here, all this would be well known to them and
| one thing they
|
| There are several of us here who's circumstances are at least as dire as
| those you describe. When their troubles hit them, we as a group do our
| best to support them in whatever way we can. We have supported our
| friends through divorce, marriage, death of loved ones, cancer (there
| are a number of these ongoing at present), loss of jobs and loss of
| mobility. They may also ask us to help with ideas for raising money,
| but none of them try to sell us things in an inappropriate place and
| manner.
|
| There are also those of us here who are professional quilters of various
| sorts as well as amateurs and new quilters. Most if us are here to
| exchange ideas and skills, information, and even fabric Sometimes we
| exchange whole blocks. This is the thing about this group: we exchange
| like for like. We don't BUY quilts - we MAKE them. This group is for
| people to exchange things to do with making quilts for ourselves.
| Occasionally we get together and make a quilt for a member of the group,
| for a particular reason. If something terrible happens, we make a hug
| quilt for that person. That person does NOT try to blackmail his or her
| friends on the news group into buying their quilts with harrowing
| tales. They may well ask for (and get in abundance - and I speak from
| experience here) prayers for themselves and their loved ones, but no-one
| has yet asked for money.
|
| Sometimes we find a quilty project cannot be completed without a bit of
| begging: there are times when we run out of a particular fabric and
| cannot get it anywhere. We ask here, and sometimes the fabric is freely
| given, out of love, and sometimes a swap is arranged. There is always a
| barter or exchange happening here, but not of money - not a sale.
|
| Your story is neither unusual nor different from many others that do the
| rounds as begging spams daily. We have no way of checking its veracity,
| and with so many being stung like this before, we will remain sceptical
| and leery of such attempts at gaining sympathy. It reads like so many
| of the 'charity' begging letters that amount to nothing more than
| emotional blackmail. Some of these come from very respectable and well
| known organizations, like Oxfam and Amnesty International, as well as
| from individuals, and they may come via the mail or via the internet,
| but they amount to the same thing: unsolicited begging. This may not
| have been your intention, but this is how it came across. Now, WE did
| not write the tale: that is wholly your responsibility, and if it did
| not do as you hoped it would, you have to ask yourself why not.
|
| Your posting was spam: an unsolicited advertisement to a news only
| group.
|
| It's a begging letter: you ask for 'donations'.
|
| This may sound a little hard, but you also need to ask yourself, who
| caused the offence? And having answered this honestly, you then need to
| say, What can I do to put this right? Then you need to do it.
|
| P.S. There is a very supportive Weight Watchers news group, and also
| various other diet support groups on the net that will help your mother
| in every way they can.
| --
| Kate XXXXXX
| Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
| http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
| Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
|
|


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