OT: The Congenitally Grammar-Picky (was OT Grammar Book New Log Cabin Quilt)
CATS wrote:
Just yesterday the 11yo from next door brought me an "essay" he had written to show me his ribbon for best in class. It was only two small pages of large writing of course, but the teacher had not corrected a single spelling or grammar mistake! I'm not talking about dangling participles here - I mean there was almost no punctuation and any word over two syllables was phonetically spelled out (and not well at that!). Now this child loves to read, and when I questioned him he said he thought some of his writing was "wrong" but that the teacher didn't care as long as it was at least two pages. This boy goes to secondary school next year, and from what I have observed there is no effort there to correct writing standards either. One girl I tutored had her work corrected when she was right and the teacher was wrong! I wanted to write to the school but as I am not a parent there the girl asked me not to as she didn't want the teacher getting mad at her. What hope have we of producing literate students with attitudes like that, and when even school report cards come home with errors? DD has never had any difficulty with spelling, but when she was about 8 she had leisure corrected as leasure! She had to write it out three times at the bottom of the page, and much to her disgust it was a new book and the first page is always special. Again it was a rather vindictive teacher, the school year was coming to an end and she decided it was a lesson in keeping quiet and not rocking the boat. She can still spell leisure properly, and whenever she saw the teacher (who lived near us) you could hear "can't spell leisure" said under her breath. Both children always had a list of spellings to learn during the week with a test on Monday morning, but DS always had to work hard on his. The family still uses his mind-joggers as 'family words' e.g. boAt, parliAment. -- Sally at the Seaside ~~~~~~~~~~ (uk) http://community.webshots.com/user/sallyswin |
OT Grammar Book New Log Cabin Quilt
A trend I have noticed lately is the way some people pronounce words that start with 's'. Instead of saying 'street' for example, they say 'shtreet'. Or 'shweet' for 'sweet'. Or 'shtring' for 'string'. Listen to Tyra Banks sometime. She speaks this way. I've noticed this more and more on TV, sometimes from reporters on national or cable news shows. Will listen for those! My pet hate is difficult to describe, but is what I call 'false gentrification' of the language. This is the inability to pronounce words like 'little' with the emphasis on the 'li', and the 't's said quickly with the 'le', so its LI tl. Instead it now seems to be liTTel, and hospital has become hospiTTal with the tongue brought really far forward behind the teeth to bet the full effect of those 'T's. Almost becomes what used to be described as 'short tongued'. Also hate the name of the letter H being pronounced as Haitch instead of Aitch. Have even heard it in tv adverts for HMV and HSBC. -- Sally at the Seaside ~~~~~~~~~~ (uk) http://community.webshots.com/user/sallyswin |
OT: The Congenitally Grammar-Picky
Sandy Ellison wrote:
Howdy! "I could care less" which is wrong-wrong-wrong. The expression is "I care so little I couldn't possibly care less!" or "I couldn't care less!" ;-P Heard too often (and have read it twice so far in the latest book on my list): "They wished he would have had the time..." instead of "They wished he had had the time." Are people afraid to use the word "me" instead of "I"? "The prize was given to my husband and I"-- Yikes! In today's newspaper: "The children she taught, like her, were poor foster children." Oy! But it's that first one that makes me holler, "You could, too!" ;-P Ragmop/Sandy-- too tired to quilt another minute after spending time working in the yard; set out some of my flagstones until it got too hot (86*), extending the rock garden On 2/22/07 3:59 PM, in article , "Donna in Idaho" wrote: My biggest pet peeve in this category is "your" when the writer really means "you're." It's everywhere! Or 'myself' instead of 'me'. Perhaps people are so full of their own importance that they choose a more important sounding name! -- Sally at the Seaside ~~~~~~~~~~ (uk) http://community.webshots.com/user/sallyswin |
Thank Goodness for Message Blocking was OT: Grammar-Picky
CATS wrote:
"Edward W. Thompson" wrote ((snip)) : : With respect to the subject being 'OnT', your reasoning is bizarre. : What is it about rec.crafts.textiles.quilting you find difficult to : comprehend? Please feel free NOT to add snide or whiney comments to your responses to clearly marked OT messages. If you don't like seeing OT comments in a "quilting orum" - and you have constantly made it clear that you don't - then don't read them. And if you don't agree with the comments of others either don't reply to them, or at least try to remain civil (see definition below). From M-W Dictionary - synonyms CIVIL, POLITE, COURTEOUS, GALLANT, CHIVALROUS mean observant of the forms required by good breeding. CIVIL often suggests little more than the avoidance of overt rudeness owed the questioner a civil reply. POLITE commonly implies polish of speech and manners and sometimes suggests an absence of cordiality if you can't be pleasant, at least be polite. COURTEOUS implies more actively considerate or dignified politeness clerks who were unfailingly courteous to customers. GALLANT and CHIVALROUS imply courteous attentiveness especially to women. GALLANT suggests spirited and dashing behavior and ornate expressions of courtesy a gallant suitor of the old school. CHIVALROUS suggests high-minded and self-sacrificing behavior a chivalrous display of duty. If you are merely amusing yourself by testing how many people you can annoy enough for them to snap back - congratulations! You have caught me on a bad day. I have snapped back (more from exasperation than anger), and you have goaded me into being as rude to you as you are to this group. Are you happy? Message blocking applied in THIS reader too - I should have remembered when I updated (sigh)! But Cheryl, remember we adopted him as our pet troll the last time he started berating us. Remember, egg, gravy etc. -- Sally at the Seaside ~~~~~~~~~~ (uk) http://community.webshots.com/user/sallyswin |
OT Grammar Book New Log Cabin Quilt
My favorite example of that is "off tin". T in "often" has been silent how
many centuries? when these folks decide to be "cultured-er than thou" and studiously enunciate it....... --pig On 2/23/07 03:59, in article , "Sally Swindells" wrote: My pet hate is difficult to describe, but is what I call 'false gentrification' of the language. |
OT: The Congenitally Grammar-Picky (was OT Grammar Book
What part of the fact that this thread has been labelled off topic from its
very beginning do you not understand? Seems silly to me to argue that a clearly marked off topic thread is off topic. Yes, thank you, I was quite aware this was water-cooler conversation when I started it, and clearly so labelled it. :) --pig On 2/23/07 00:42, in article , "Edward W. Thompson" wrote: With respect to the subject being 'OnT', your reasoning is bizarre. What is it about rec.crafts.textiles.quilting you find difficult to comprehend? |
Thank Goodness for Message Blocking was OT: Grammar-Picky
Call me when he's cooked - I will bring the carving knife!
Until then he is just a little too annoying for me in my present frame of mind. But if you guys want to bait him a little go right ahead. I will cheer from the side lines lol Trolls - beware! -- Cheryl & the Cats in OZ o o o o ( Y ) ( Y ) Boofhead Donut http://community.webshots.com/user/witchofthewest catsatararatATyahooDOTcomDOTau "Sally Swindells" wrote in message ... : CATS wrote: : "Edward W. Thompson" wrote : : ((snip)) : : : : With respect to the subject being 'OnT', your reasoning is : bizarre. : : What is it about rec.crafts.textiles.quilting you find : difficult to : : comprehend? : : : : Please feel free NOT to add snide or whiney comments to your : responses to clearly marked OT messages. : : If you don't like seeing OT comments in a "quilting : orum" - and you have constantly made it clear that you : don't - then don't read them. And if you don't agree with : the comments of others either don't reply to them, or at : least try to remain civil (see definition below). : : From M-W Dictionary - : synonyms CIVIL, POLITE, COURTEOUS, GALLANT, CHIVALROUS mean : observant of the forms required by good breeding. CIVIL : often suggests little more than the avoidance of overt : rudeness owed the questioner a civil reply. POLITE : commonly implies polish of speech and manners and sometimes : suggests an absence of cordiality if you can't be pleasant, : at least be polite. COURTEOUS implies more actively : considerate or dignified politeness clerks who were : unfailingly courteous to customers. GALLANT and CHIVALROUS : imply courteous attentiveness especially to women. GALLANT : suggests spirited and dashing behavior and ornate : expressions of courtesy a gallant suitor of the old : school. CHIVALROUS suggests high-minded and : self-sacrificing behavior a chivalrous display of duty. : : If you are merely amusing yourself by testing how many : people you can annoy enough for them to snap back - : congratulations! You have caught me on a bad day. I have : snapped back (more from exasperation than anger), and you : have goaded me into being as rude to you as you are to this : group. Are you happy? : : : : Message blocking applied in THIS reader too - I should : have remembered when I updated (sigh)! : : But Cheryl, remember we adopted him as our pet troll the last time he : started berating us. Remember, egg, gravy etc. : : -- : Sally at the Seaside ~~~~~~~~~~ (uk) : http://community.webshots.com/user/sallyswin |
OT Grammar Book New Log Cabin Quilt
" I am eruditerer than you" rofl
But then the UK and Commonwealth countries would have a laugh over anomalies like Lieutenant US = loo-ten-ant UK = lef-ten-ant -- Cheryl & the Cats in OZ o o o o ( Y ) ( Y ) Boofhead Donut http://community.webshots.com/user/witchofthewest catsatararatATyahooDOTcomDOTau "Megan Zurawicz" wrote in message ... : My favorite example of that is "off tin". T in "often" has been silent how : many centuries? when these folks decide to be "cultured-er than thou" and : studiously enunciate it....... : : --pig : : : On 2/23/07 03:59, in article , "Sally : Swindells" wrote: : : My pet hate is difficult to describe, but is what I call 'false : gentrification' of the language. : |
OT Grammar Book New Log Cabin Quilt
Pointing out here that "loo-tenant" is closer to the original French from
which this word comes. :-) Roberta in D "CATS" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... " I am eruditerer than you" rofl But then the UK and Commonwealth countries would have a laugh over anomalies like Lieutenant US = loo-ten-ant UK = lef-ten-ant -- Cheryl & the Cats in OZ o o o o ( Y ) ( Y ) Boofhead Donut http://community.webshots.com/user/witchofthewest catsatararatATyahooDOTcomDOTau "Megan Zurawicz" wrote in message ... : My favorite example of that is "off tin". T in "often" has been silent how : many centuries? when these folks decide to be "cultured-er than thou" and : studiously enunciate it....... : : --pig : : : On 2/23/07 03:59, in article , "Sally : Swindells" wrote: : : My pet hate is difficult to describe, but is what I call 'false : gentrification' of the language. : |
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