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rp October 21st 03 12:01 PM

sewing a kimono for halloween (going as oren)
 
does anybody here have an online pattern? or has anybody read " The
folkwear book of ethnic clothing : easy ways to sew & embellish
fabulous garments from around the world / Mary S. Parker. " it's in a
nearby library although still quite far away so I was just wondering
if a kimono pattern can be found there as well. Also I've seen in the
pictures that the girls are wearing something underneath usually of a
contrasting colour...does anybody know what that garment looks like?
is it just another kimono? or a sash like thing?
thanks for your help

Mike Behrent October 21st 03 02:39 PM

Kimono are really fairly simple. Here are a couple URLs for the project.
http://www.twilightbridge.com/hobbie...makekimono.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/5187/kimono.html
Mike in Wisconsin

"rp" wrote in message
om...
does anybody here have an online pattern? or has anybody read " The
folkwear book of ethnic clothing : easy ways to sew & embellish
fabulous garments from around the world / Mary S. Parker. " it's in a
nearby library although still quite far away so I was just wondering
if a kimono pattern can be found there as well. Also I've seen in the
pictures that the girls are wearing something underneath usually of a
contrasting colour...does anybody know what that garment looks like?
is it just another kimono? or a sash like thing?
thanks for your help




julia October 21st 03 05:38 PM

(rp) wrote in news:36854f79.0310210301.7e82d6f0
@posting.google.com:

does anybody here have an online pattern? or has anybody read " The
folkwear book of ethnic clothing : easy ways to sew & embellish
fabulous garments from around the world / Mary S. Parker. " it's in a
nearby library although still quite far away so I was just wondering
if a kimono pattern can be found there as well. Also I've seen in the
pictures that the girls are wearing something underneath usually of a
contrasting colour...does anybody know what that garment looks like?
is it just another kimono? or a sash like thing?
thanks for your help


The links at the Costumer's Manifesto
(
http://www.costumes.org/ethnic/1PAGE...inks.htm#Japan) have
tons of information about kimonos. What a woman wears underneath is
called a "nagajuban", which is usually white and looks like a robe. The
"sash" worn at the waist is called an "obi" and a traditional one is very
full, padded and (from having tried one on once) very heavy and
uncomfortable. See the Kimono FAQ at http://www.asahi-jc.com/kimofaq.htm
for lots of nice pictures. The Reconstructing History site has a basic
kimono 'how-to':
http://www.reconstructinghistory.com...e/Jap123s.html. You might
find other patterns from the Costumes.org links too. And just curious,
but who or what is "Oren"?

-j
--


Trishty October 21st 03 11:00 PM

On 21 Oct 2003 04:01:29 -0700, rp wrote:

does anybody here have an online pattern? or has anybody read " The
folkwear book of ethnic clothing : easy ways to sew & embellish
fabulous garments from around the world / Mary S. Parker. " it's in a
nearby library although still quite far away so I was just wondering
if a kimono pattern can be found there as well. Also I've seen in the
pictures that the girls are wearing something underneath usually of a
contrasting colour...does anybody know what that garment looks like?
is it just another kimono? or a sash like thing?
thanks for your help


I don't think the book covers kimonos. And I also can't think of what you
mean people wearing underneath. Most Japanese wear an under-kimono under
their kimono (usually white, and you can just see the front edges at the
neck). The main kimono also has a contrast or self-fabric collar guard,
which is just basted to the kimono, so it's easily unpinned for washing.
Over the top, you might wear a haori or shawl.

If you are planning to wear something under the kimono, you might want to
leave about 3-4 inches unsewn in both body and sleeve where they join, as
is usual in women's kimono. It makes the garment a lot easier to wear - in
normal Japanese style, the gap is covered by the obi.

I usually sew ties inside to keep the garment shut, and also sew a loop or
ties on the front overlap, also to keep it shut - otherwise, when you move,
it tends to come open as it walks around your body a bit.

You're meant to wear them left over right, btw, unless you're dead - but
maybe for Hallowe'en, that's appropriate?...

:) Trish

Mike Behrent October 22nd 03 02:52 AM

The nagajuban can be any color that contrasts pleasantly with the kimono.
White is the most common, but pinks and pale blues aren't unheard of. As for
the obi sash, the one I made for my wife is modernized. I made it out of
lighter material, narrower than traditional and with a velcro fastener. So I
cheated. My wife isn't about to learn to tie a traditional obi G
Mike in Wisconsin

"julia" wrote in message
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(rp) wrote in news:36854f79.0310210301.7e82d6f0
@posting.google.com:

does anybody here have an online pattern? or has anybody read " The
folkwear book of ethnic clothing : easy ways to sew & embellish
fabulous garments from around the world / Mary S. Parker. " it's in a
nearby library although still quite far away so I was just wondering
if a kimono pattern can be found there as well. Also I've seen in the
pictures that the girls are wearing something underneath usually of a
contrasting colour...does anybody know what that garment looks like?
is it just another kimono? or a sash like thing?
thanks for your help


The links at the Costumer's Manifesto
(
http://www.costumes.org/ethnic/1PAGE...inks.htm#Japan) have
tons of information about kimonos. What a woman wears underneath is
called a "nagajuban", which is usually white and looks like a robe. The
"sash" worn at the waist is called an "obi" and a traditional one is very
full, padded and (from having tried one on once) very heavy and
uncomfortable. See the Kimono FAQ at http://www.asahi-jc.com/kimofaq.htm
for lots of nice pictures. The Reconstructing History site has a basic
kimono 'how-to':
http://www.reconstructinghistory.com...e/Jap123s.html. You might
find other patterns from the Costumes.org links too. And just curious,
but who or what is "Oren"?

-j
--




Mike Behrent October 22nd 03 02:55 AM

I made my wife a Yukata, which is a cotton version of kimono. She loves it
as a lounging robe.
Mike in Wisconsin

"La Vida Xena" wrote in message
...
On 21 Oct 2003 04:01:29 -0700, (rp) wrote:

does anybody here have an online pattern? or has anybody read " The
folkwear book of ethnic clothing : easy ways to sew & embellish
fabulous garments from around the world / Mary S. Parker. " it's in a
nearby library although still quite far away so I was just wondering
if a kimono pattern can be found there as well. Also I've seen in the
pictures that the girls are wearing something underneath usually of a
contrasting colour...does anybody know what that garment looks like?
is it just another kimono? or a sash like thing?
thanks for your help


LOL

I like Kimonos on the rack and in pictures and have never managed to work

one
into my daily life. I thought of making one to use as a bathrobe, but I

like my
bathrobes to be made of big, fat, terrycloth.

I am in the process of losing weight. Everything I used to wear was too

small
and went away in a big clean-and-clear when I started to change my

lifestyle.
The first 15 lbs are gone, and I am tired of feeling dowdy, I've decided

to make
myself one or two basic core items every time I need something that fits

my
current size. My stash is enriched with bargains, and I am ready to sews.
Right now I am working on a longish slim, slit skirt that would look at

home
with a suit jacket. I keep envisioning using a mid-length kimono instead.

I
could probably wear it after those other 30 lbs are gone, and it'd be kind

of a
fun fashion statement. Underneath I could wear just about anything that

is not
bulky and doesn't have a collar-- am thinking tank top or scoop necked

long
sleeved T. I am a little stuck on what to make it out of. I want

something
warm and suitlike but not tweedy (LOL) and not too shiny and slick.

Xena




rp October 22nd 03 03:40 AM

going as oren ishii ...anybody watch kill bill?

julia October 22nd 03 03:51 AM

"Mike Behrent" wrote in
:

The nagajuban can be any color that contrasts pleasantly with the
kimono. White is the most common, but pinks and pale blues aren't
unheard of.

Yes, true. My Japanese friend said 'usually white' so I'm just quoting her.
:)

As for the obi sash, the one I made for my wife is
modernized. I made it out of lighter material, narrower than
traditional and with a velcro fastener. So I cheated. My wife isn't
about to learn to tie a traditional obi G
Mike in Wisconsin

Probably a good way to 'cheat' and still be able to do anything (like bend
from the waist to put on your socks!).
-j


Trishty October 22nd 03 11:53 AM

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:52:48 GMT, Mike Behrent wrote:

The nagajuban can be any color that contrasts pleasantly with the kimono.

snip

I look terrible in proper obis, so I just make a long sash, about 3in wide,
usually cut on the bias. It is a very Western look, really. Obis are
beautiful, but they're kind of meant to keep you bolt upright, especially
kneeling to eat, and they're hard to wear in a chair or for driving - you
can see why they're dying out in Japan, too, except for formal wear.

I found the book Make Your Own Japanese Clothes (by John Marshall) very
useful and refer to it all the time. My favourite garment is a hanten
jacket with back box pleat and makisode sleeve - this is a fab way of not
cutting into precious fabric and is hugely comfortable to wear. The jacket
with extensions that makes a triangular-shaped top is also very nice, and
I've made a few hipparis to wear while working - the elastic edge cuff is
more convenient than a standard kimono sleeve.

:) Trish

SewStorm October 22nd 03 12:25 PM

I
cheated. My wife isn't about to learn to tie a traditional obi G


Plus, they're about 3 yards plus long. Very few modern women want that much
fabric, doubled, wrapped around their middle!

Karen Maslowski in Cincinnati



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