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Robert Galejs February 18th 04 09:14 PM

*Really* white porcelain slip?
 
Does anyone have any suggestions on where I might find a *really* white
porcelain slip? There are many companies out there selling slip that is
named all manner of white, but they all turn out rather gray or
yellowish when fired. I mean the kind of white that is the same color
as your standard printer/copier paper. I know it must exist somewhere,
as I have some true white porcelain figurines and a miniature porcelain
tea set sitting on a table at home.

Thanks,

Robert Galejs


Steve Mills February 19th 04 12:00 AM

Geographically where are you?

Steve
Bath
UK


In article , Robert Galejs
writes
Does anyone have any suggestions on where I might find a *really* white
porcelain slip? There are many companies out there selling slip that is
named all manner of white, but they all turn out rather gray or
yellowish when fired. I mean the kind of white that is the same color
as your standard printer/copier paper. I know it must exist somewhere,
as I have some true white porcelain figurines and a miniature porcelain
tea set sitting on a table at home.

Thanks,

Robert Galejs


--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK

Robert Galejs February 19th 04 02:20 PM

I'm in the northeast United States. Massachusetts, to be specific.

- Robert

Steve Mills wrote:
Geographically where are you?

Steve
Bath
UK


In article , Robert Galejs
writes

Does anyone have any suggestions on where I might find a *really* white
porcelain slip? There are many companies out there selling slip that is
named all manner of white, but they all turn out rather gray or
yellowish when fired. I mean the kind of white that is the same color
as your standard printer/copier paper. I know it must exist somewhere,
as I have some true white porcelain figurines and a miniature porcelain
tea set sitting on a table at home.

Thanks,

Robert Galejs





Nancy Albin February 19th 04 02:47 PM

What ^ are you firing to? Are you fring China Porcelain or bone china
"porcelain"
NJ





v




wayneinkeywest February 19th 04 03:14 PM


I'm in the northeast United States. Massachusetts, to be specific.

- Robert

Steve Mills wrote:
Geographically where are you?

Steve
Bath
UK


In article , Robert Galejs
writes

Does anyone have any suggestions on where I might find a *really* white
porcelain slip? There are many companies out there selling slip that is
named all manner of white, but they all turn out rather gray or
yellowish when fired. I mean the kind of white that is the same color
as your standard printer/copier paper. I know it must exist somewhere,
as I have some true white porcelain figurines and a miniature porcelain
tea set sitting on a table at home.

Thanks,

Robert Galejs



Robert:
Since you're in MA, you might try http://www.continentalclay.com

I noticed in their catalog that they are now carying "Southern Ice", a
brilliant white clay from Australia. It would be rather easy to make slip
from that, and it would fire bright white (ox.)
I've ordered from them, and found them to be most helpful, and a great
company to deal with.
Hope that helps,
Wayne Seidl



Robert Galejs February 19th 04 05:42 PM

I can fire up to cone 10.

I have no idea of what the difference between china and bone china
porcelain. Could you explain the difference?

The porcelain slip I am searching for is to make antique doll
reproductions. After firing up to bisque, the doll head will be painted
in many passes with china paint, so I don't want to have a glassy
surface. In addition, real antique porcelain is very white and all of
the hobby porcelains that doll companies sell is quite gray.

Thanks,

Robert

Nancy Albin wrote:

What ^ are you firing to? Are you fring China Porcelain or bone china
"porcelain"
NJ





v





Robert Galejs February 19th 04 05:48 PM



wayneinkeywest wrote:

Robert:
Since you're in MA, you might try http://www.continentalclay.com

I noticed in their catalog that they are now carying "Southern Ice", a
brilliant white clay from Australia. It would be rather easy to make slip
from that, and it would fire bright white (ox.)
I've ordered from them, and found them to be most helpful, and a great
company to deal with.
Hope that helps,
Wayne Seidl



Wayne -

Have you actually made slip out of Southern Ice? An apparently
knowledgable Byrne distributor told us that Southern Ice *cannot* be
made into a slip. I have no idea of why though. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Robert


annemarie February 19th 04 10:53 PM


"wayneinkeywest" wrote in message
.. .

I'm in the northeast United States. Massachusetts, to be specific.

- Robert

Steve Mills wrote:
Geographically where are you?

Steve
Bath
UK


In article , Robert Galejs
writes

Does anyone have any suggestions on where I might find a *really*

white
porcelain slip? There are many companies out there selling slip that

is
named all manner of white, but they all turn out rather gray or
yellowish when fired. I mean the kind of white that is the same color
as your standard printer/copier paper. I know it must exist

somewhere,
as I have some true white porcelain figurines and a miniature

porcelain
tea set sitting on a table at home.

Thanks,

Robert Galejs



Robert:
Since you're in MA, you might try http://www.continentalclay.com

I noticed in their catalog that they are now carying "Southern Ice", a
brilliant white clay from Australia. It would be rather easy to make slip
from that, and it would fire bright white (ox.)
I've ordered from them, and found them to be most helpful, and a great
company to deal with.
Hope that helps,
Wayne Seidl


Southern Ice is wonderful porcelain and very translucent. They are now also
producing Cool Ice, a low fire porcelain, cone 4 to 6.
It is very white.



jim solo February 20th 04 04:27 AM

the purest porcelain comes form France.it has the lowest iron content.if you
want that level of white you will have to find a supplier of clay from
there.



wayneinkeywest February 20th 04 12:37 PM

Wayne -

Have you actually made slip out of Southern Ice? An apparently
knowledgable Byrne distributor told us that Southern Ice *cannot* be
made into a slip. I have no idea of why though. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Robert

Robert:
Sorry to contradict what you've been told, but
if they can make a clay from it, YOU can make a slip from it.
Mix with water, blend, done. I use a blender.
Terra Sig is something else
though. I'm having a great deal of trouble making THAT
from porcelain. Could just be me...
or the fact that most of the particles are the same size,
and therefore little to no separation.
Wayne




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