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Jessamy February 25th 07 10:29 AM

OT:Bad English teachers (was OT Grammar Book New Log Cabin Quilt)
 
that needed a spew warning.. now my computer screen is covered in coffee!

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When I was about 10 I had a rather naive, not very bright, and very
Christian teacher called Miss Jones (probably the first person I met
who had a Welsh accent to match the name). For whatever reason, she
brought in a record of Tom Lehrer songs. And played the whole thing.
Including "The Masochism Tango".

- Miss Jones, what's "masochism"?

- I'm not sure, let's look it up in the dictionary, shall we?...
[flip flip flip] "A sexual perversion characterized by..."
ooh, I didn't think it was *that* strong!


The one good thing to come from the incident is that I will never
forget the meaning or spelling of philology. *evil grin*


The one I remember was "phthisis" A bit after the above episode we
had a sort of competitive test to see how good our pronunuciation was.
We had to read out a list of words of ever-increasing difficulty and
obscurity. I was way ahead of the rest of the class, and made it all
through the list until that one, which was the very last item. The
frustrating thing was that I knew *how* to pronounce it, and what the
word meant; I just couldn't physically do it, thanks to having a cleft
palate and at that point no denture to articulate that consonant
cluster on. (I've since acquired a fascination for languages like
Georgian that have gigantic pile-ups of consonants - I can roll off
placenames like "Mtskheta" with no problem at all).

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Cats February 25th 07 12:35 PM

OT:Bad English teachers
 
On behalf of your students - most of whom probably do not
realise just how fortunate they are to have you right now -
thankyou for sticking it out. One day they will look back
and remember your classes. I fondly remember one or two of
my teachers at each of various stages of my schooling. They
helped light a fire in me that keeps me learning even now.

In the eyes of many - myself included - teaching should be
seen as one of the most honoured of professions. I
certainly did not mean to imply that there are no dedicated
teachers anymore. But faced with the interference of
political correctness idiots, civil libertarians, political
point scorers and parents who take no responsibility for the
raising/teaching of their own children, I honestly don't
know how many of you continue to cope.

BTW - from observation our ed system is no better over here.

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"Leigh Harris" wrote in message
...
: "CATS" wrote
: They are "teachers" with a job, not a profession or a
: "calling". Sadly there are all too many of them
everywhere
: today.
:
: I agree that there are a number of bad teachers out there,
but as a current
: member of one of the most undervalued professions, I would
like to point out
: that I believe they are still in the minority. I am a high
school English
: teacher (20+ years) and I take great pleasure in
challenging my students to
: improve and then seeing them actually achieve that
improvement. I also have
: no problem in admitting that I too am human and prone to
mistakes or lack of
: knowledge. I am as able to check something in a dictionary
as anyone else.
: If I make a mistake in a handout or on the board, I
congratulate those who
: pick it up, admiring their proofreading skills. Anyone who
is so insecure
: that they can't take correction, especially from a child
or teenager, should
: never enter a classroom, in my opinion!
:
: I know, the whole teaching profession was not being bagged
in this thread.
: It's just that there is a lot of that going on in my home
state at the
: moment, mostly thanks to the stupid government itself. The
story goes
: something like this - Let's force teachers to implement a
new type of
: curriculum, whether they like it or not, then dump it just
as they've put
: years of preparation into it. Also, let's make that change
the week before
: the new school year starts and expect them to still
provide a good education
: to their senior students. I'm waiting for the part nearer
the end of the
: year when we then blame all the teachers for not getting
top results from
: their students. Add to that the ridiculous notion of
students having a say
: in teacher pay/bonus pay and you see the education climate
here at the
: moment. (Hmm, I don't like my teacher. If I don't perform
so well, or say
: she's done a bad job and I could have done better with
another teacher, she
: gets less pay. Great system!) The mind boggles.
:
: Okay, I'm off to mark some student work now, if I can
figure out which of
: the three possible systems it is that they want me to use
today (yes, I'm
: serious about that...)
:
: --
: Leigh Harris
: Perth, Western Australia
:
:



[email protected] February 25th 07 02:22 PM

OT Grammar Book New Log Cabin Quilt
 
When I taught HS, I had a poster of a kid standing over a dead woman
with an axe dripping in blood. It said, "I have to axe my mother." Too
graphic for the grades I teach now.

Linda
PATCHogue, NY

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:26:20 -0500, "Boca Jan"
wrote:

Also the pronounciatioin of ask being
pronounced as axed


Kathy Applebaum February 25th 07 04:38 PM

OT: Axing mom and dad (was OT Grammar Book New Log Cabin Quilt)
 
Why, it's "The Ballad of Lizzie Borden", of course.

And looking it up, I see that I was *completely* wrong about the group.
Aargh! It was the Chad Mitchell Trio, not the Kingston Trio. (In my defense,
I did have several records from both trios as a kid.) Sorry for making you
think you should know the song!

Here's the lyrics for those who are interested.

http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/lizziebo.htm


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"Tia Mary" wrote in message
...
Kathy Applebaum wrote:
In the words of the Kingston Trio:

Oh, you can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts,
Massachusetts is a far cry from New York!

For some reason it really bothered my parents that I knew all the words
to that song. *grin*


Geez Loueez -- which song is that? I should know it -- my DBro and I used
to sing & play guitar in coffee houses way back in the mid-60's and we did
a whole bunch of Kingston Trio songs. I should KNOW that song but it's
just not coming to me. Tell me quick and put me out of my misery!! All
together, hum in tune -- and a one and a two and a ....Shady Grove, my
little love, Shady Grove I know................... CiaoMeow ^;;^

PAX, Tia Mary ^;;^ (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
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Kate XXXXXX February 25th 07 06:23 PM

OT: apostrophe
 
Megan Zurawicz wrote:
I'm assuming the child in question is named Myles, yes?

When a name ends in an s, it's now acceptable to do the classic "apostrophe
s" for possession (Myles's) but more traditionally formally correct not to
double the s---simply don't add the last one (Myles').

Looks odd enough to some folks---they know "Myles's" looks wrong, but they
also "know" with a vengeance that it's got to end in 's somehow---that
they're willing to drop the s that's part of Myles to get the 's added.

Myles never becomes Myle, nor Charles Charle, just for the sin of owning
something. :)

--pig


Does one not say 'Myles's bed' over your way the way I would (and do!)
say 'James's bed' here in England?

Nowt wrong wi' that, lass. ;)

I like your last sentence: that's one I'll tuck away for future
lessons... Puts the point across beautifully.
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Pat in Virginia February 25th 07 06:29 PM

OT Grammar Book New Log Cabin Quilt
 
This is NOT addressed to Kathy A. It is a general
posting. Ta!

Yes, incorrect pronunciation is a tad annoying.
I would like to point out that sometimes it is due to
hearing impairment. IOW, let's not be too quick to
judge! I often mispronounce words and get odd looks,
but that is because I cannot always HEAR the word as
others do. So, if you happen to be presenting a class
or workshop and the moderator mispronounces a word in
her introduction, kindly do not shout out the correct
pronunciation. She may be hearing impaired, and/or she
may be unfamiliar with the word. You can just use the
proper form in your presentation. This would save the
moderator public embarrassment and hurt feelings.
Thank you. PAT

Kathy Applebaum wrote:

..
While I'm not guilty of that particular crime, I did often (used
intentionally) mispronounce words as a child. Why? Because I had learned
them from reading. I'd look up the meaning, but the pronunciation guides in
dictionaries mystified me, so I didn't always have the correct pronunciation
stuck in my head.

I was also guilty of learning a lot of words just by context, without
looking them up. A local hospital had a sign that read "Permission to pass
over revocable at any time." For years I wondered exactly what type of cable
a revo-cable was, and why the hospital felt the need to post a sign saying
it was okay to pass over it.


Pat in Virginia February 25th 07 06:39 PM

Off Topic OT: The Congenitally Grammar-Picky
 
Sandy: There is a quilter of some prominence who does
that too. She does it often in a lecture. It makes me
grind my teeth!
Well, she refers to herself in the third person using
her own name. She does not call herself Bob Dole, thank
goodness.
PAT in Virginia

Sandy Ellison wrote:

Howdy!

BobDole syndrome: Mr.Dole is a U.S. politician with a habit of speaking
of himself in the 3rd person.
Reporter: "Mr.Dole, do you have a plan for dealing with the lack of health
care for children?"
Mr.Dole: "Bob Dole has a plan. Bob Dole wants to count those children
and find out how many don't have insurance. That's what Bob Dole will do."
g Might me a hangover from Mr.Nixon who used a similar technique:
"You won't have Richard Nixon to kick around any more."


Sandy February 25th 07 08:59 PM

OT Grammar Book New Log Cabin Quilt
 
In article ,
Pat in Virginia wrote:

This is NOT addressed to Kathy A. It is a general
posting. Ta!

Yes, incorrect pronunciation is a tad annoying.
I would like to point out that sometimes it is due to
hearing impairment. IOW, let's not be too quick to
judge! I often mispronounce words and get odd looks,
but that is because I cannot always HEAR the word as
others do. So, if you happen to be presenting a class
or workshop and the moderator mispronounces a word in
her introduction, kindly do not shout out the correct
pronunciation. She may be hearing impaired, and/or she
may be unfamiliar with the word. You can just use the
proper form in your presentation. This would save the
moderator public embarrassment and hurt feelings.
Thank you. PAT


You make an excellent point, Pat. But, my goodness, I can't imagine
publicly correcting someone in mid-presentation! How very rude. I'm sure
it's happened, but why can't people imagine how embarrassed and hurt
they would feel if someone did something of the sort to them? There's
this little thing called the Golden Rule....

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Jack Campin - bogus address February 26th 07 01:54 AM

OT:Bad English teachers (was OT Grammar Book New Log Cabin Quilt)
 
So put me out of my misery
How do you pronounce "phthisis"?


Phonetically!

The only thing not obvious in the spelling is that the first
"i" is a long "ee" sound. So it's just "thesis" with an "f"
sound in front.

English spelling is a lot more regular than most folks think.

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Cats February 26th 07 02:22 AM

Still OT Words was OT:Bad English teachers
 
Hhmmmm! I hadn't encountered the spoken word before so I
would have assumed that either "ph" or "th" were silent.

Thanks for my learning exercise of the day lol

Maybe you could help me out with a word I haven't found
(mind you, probably not looking all that hard either!). I
was wearing a tee shirt with "ailurophile" on the front (cat
lover) and someone asked me what the correct term was for a
dog lover. I couldn't remember. Don't suppose you would
happen to know, would you? TIA
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"Jack Campin - bogus address" wrote
in message
...
: So put me out of my misery
: How do you pronounce ""?
:
: Phonetically!
:
: The only thing not obvious in the spelling is that the
first
: "i" is a long "ee" sound. So it's just "thesis" with an
"f"
: sound in front.
:
: English spelling is a lot more regular than most folks
think.
:
: ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co
.. uk ==============
: Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland
| tel 0131 660 4760
: http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/ for CD-ROMs and free
| fax 0870 0554 975
: stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts
| mob 07800 739 557




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