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Glassman October 23rd 06 08:39 PM

The Power of Being Established
 
I'm finding that the last couple of years my job volume has gone way
down, but the job size has gone way up. Everytime I think I'm going to slit
my wrists, a huge job falls in my lap. It's the in between time that's
baffling. I just don't see the small repairs and commissions as much
anymore. I'm not complaining, it's less work for me at the same pay. I
wonder if it's the disposable society syndrome? Folks are throwing away,
and buying new alot more. Maybe it's the aging of the population? Also the
basement bandits don't inspire the confidence required to get a big job that
a legit company does. I find that many are afraid to go with a basement guy
at 1/2 price sometimes. Even some bargain hunters. So in the end it all
seems to be working out for all us artisans. Anyone agree?


--
JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com



Javahut October 23rd 06 08:56 PM

The Power of Being Established
 

"glassman" wrote in message
...
I'm finding that the last couple of years my job volume has gone way
down, but the job size has gone way up. Everytime I think I'm going to

slit
my wrists, a huge job falls in my lap. It's the in between time that's
baffling. I just don't see the small repairs and commissions as much
anymore. I'm not complaining, it's less work for me at the same pay. I
wonder if it's the disposable society syndrome? Folks are throwing away,
and buying new alot more. Maybe it's the aging of the population? Also

the
basement bandits don't inspire the confidence required to get a big job

that
a legit company does. I find that many are afraid to go with a basement

guy
at 1/2 price sometimes. Even some bargain hunters. So in the end it all
seems to be working out for all us artisans. Anyone agree?


Well, I don't know if it because of the economy in general or the economy in
MI.

I find when the general economy goes to hell in a handbasket, I get busier
doing restorations on things that have been of value, but put "in the back
for later" by collectors or dealers.
The new work involves more artistic license, and is generally more enjoyable
to do., but don't know if it larger jobs, but some are for sure.

I find it easy to become overwhelmed, had some health issues of late, ( you
know, getting older crap), and that put me further behind than I have been
in a while. so now I have to allow for that situation when I quote a
delivery date.

Other than that, life as normal...



Moonraker October 23rd 06 10:29 PM

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"glassman" wrote in message
...
I'm finding that the last couple of years my job volume has gone way
down, but the job size has gone way up. Everytime I think I'm going to

slit
my wrists, a huge job falls in my lap. It's the in between time that's
baffling. I just don't see the small repairs and commissions as much
anymore. I'm not complaining, it's less work for me at the same pay. I
wonder if it's the disposable society syndrome? Folks are throwing away,
and buying new alot more. Maybe it's the aging of the population? Also

the
basement bandits don't inspire the confidence required to get a big job

that
a legit company does. I find that many are afraid to go with a basement

guy
at 1/2 price sometimes. Even some bargain hunters. So in the end it all
seems to be working out for all us artisans. Anyone agree?


Adapt or Die, dammit!



nJb October 23rd 06 11:20 PM

The Power of Being Established
 
glassman wrote:
I'm finding that the last couple of years my job volume has gone way
down, but the job size has gone way up. Everytime I think I'm going to slit
my wrists, a huge job falls in my lap. It's the in between time that's
baffling. I just don't see the small repairs and commissions as much
anymore. I'm not complaining, it's less work for me at the same pay. I
wonder if it's the disposable society syndrome? Folks are throwing away,
and buying new alot more. Maybe it's the aging of the population? Also the
basement bandits don't inspire the confidence required to get a big job that
a legit company does. I find that many are afraid to go with a basement guy
at 1/2 price sometimes. Even some bargain hunters. So in the end it all
seems to be working out for all us artisans. Anyone agree?



Maybe you could fill the in between time making stained glass boats.

Jack

[email protected] October 23rd 06 11:29 PM

The Power of Being Established
 
glassman wrote:
I'm finding that the last couple of years my job volume has gone way
down, but the job size has gone way up. Everytime I think I'm going to slit
my wrists, a huge job falls in my lap. It's the in between time that's
baffling. I just don't see the small repairs and commissions as much
anymore. I'm not complaining, it's less work for me at the same pay. I
wonder if it's the disposable society syndrome? Folks are throwing away,
and buying new alot more. Maybe it's the aging of the population? Also the
basement bandits don't inspire the confidence required to get a big job that
a legit company does. I find that many are afraid to go with a basement guy
at 1/2 price sometimes. Even some bargain hunters. So in the end it all
seems to be working out for all us artisans. Anyone agree?


--
JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com


Beef up your biz by getting some accounts over in Finland. I hear
they're buying glass by the boatload.

Andy


Moonraker October 23rd 06 11:39 PM

The Power of Being Established
 

"glassman" wrote in message
...
I'm finding that the last couple of years my job volume has gone way
down, but the job size has gone way up. Everytime I think I'm going to

slit
my wrists, a huge job falls in my lap. It's the in between time that's
baffling. I just don't see the small repairs and commissions as much
anymore. I'm not complaining, it's less work for me at the same pay. I
wonder if it's the disposable society syndrome? Folks are throwing away,
and buying new alot more. Maybe it's the aging of the population? Also

the
basement bandits don't inspire the confidence required to get a big job

that
a legit company does. I find that many are afraid to go with a basement

guy
at 1/2 price sometimes. Even some bargain hunters. So in the end it all
seems to be working out for all us artisans. Anyone agree?


--
JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

And if you are really desperate for profit, you can start taking orders for
kilns and not delivering them. I hear there is some of that going on.



[email protected] October 24th 06 12:28 AM

The Power of Being Established
 
Moonraker wrote:
"glassman" wrote in message
...
I'm finding that the last couple of years my job volume has gone way
down, but the job size has gone way up. Everytime I think I'm going to

slit
my wrists, a huge job falls in my lap. It's the in between time that's
baffling. I just don't see the small repairs and commissions as much
anymore. I'm not complaining, it's less work for me at the same pay. I
wonder if it's the disposable society syndrome? Folks are throwing away,
and buying new alot more. Maybe it's the aging of the population? Also

the
basement bandits don't inspire the confidence required to get a big job

that
a legit company does. I find that many are afraid to go with a basement

guy
at 1/2 price sometimes. Even some bargain hunters. So in the end it all
seems to be working out for all us artisans. Anyone agree?


--
JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

And if you are really desperate for profit, you can start taking orders for
kilns and not delivering them. I hear there is some of that going on.


Now that's a damn good profit margin!


[email protected] October 24th 06 07:48 PM

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glassman wrote:
Anyone agree?


--


Nope.

I believe the job volume on stained glass work is down because of the
Chinese imports. In the past, people believed stained glass was
valuable and were willing to pay for it. Low price imports have
created the impression that stained glass lamps and windows are
something you can buy at Home Depot, Costco, and Walmart.

However, I do agree that having an established business provides a
distinctive advantage. Because established businesses enjoy that
advantage, I tell newbie "basement bandits" to price as low as they
can. That's the only advantage they have to compete with established
businesses. Aggressive marketing helps too.

Victorian Art Glass - http://www.vicartglass.com
DeBrady Glassworks - http://www.debrady.com
Glass Campus - http://www.glasscampus.com


Moonraker October 24th 06 09:51 PM

The Power of Being Established
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

glassman wrote:
Anyone agree?


--


Nope.

I believe the job volume on stained glass work is down because of the
Chinese imports. In the past, people believed stained glass was
valuable and were willing to pay for it. Low price imports have
created the impression that stained glass lamps and windows are
something you can buy at Home Depot, Costco, and Walmart.

However, I do agree that having an established business provides a
distinctive advantage. Because established businesses enjoy that
advantage, I tell newbie "basement bandits" to price as low as they
can. That's the only advantage they have to compete with established
businesses. Aggressive marketing helps too.


Newbie basement bandits are pricing low to compete with the Chinese imports?
Does that make any sense at all to anybody? What an exercise in futility.
Stick your finger in the dike, there's a Tsunami coming.

If basement bandits had any talent, experience, vision, or training, they
wouldn't need to undercut prices. And even more importantly, if they had an
IQ above room temperature they wouldn't be sitting at your feet in rapt
attention. Kool-Aid, anybody?

Did the container load of glass make it to Finland, yet? How about those
kilns, still stealing people's money?







[email protected] October 24th 06 10:36 PM

The Power of Being Established
 

Moonraker wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

glassman wrote:
Anyone agree?


--


Nope.

I believe the job volume on stained glass work is down because of the
Chinese imports. In the past, people believed stained glass was
valuable and were willing to pay for it. Low price imports have
created the impression that stained glass lamps and windows are
something you can buy at Home Depot, Costco, and Walmart.

However, I do agree that having an established business provides a
distinctive advantage. Because established businesses enjoy that
advantage, I tell newbie "basement bandits" to price as low as they
can. That's the only advantage they have to compete with established
businesses. Aggressive marketing helps too.


Newbie basement bandits are pricing low to compete with the Chinese imports?
Does that make any sense at all to anybody? What an exercise in futility.
Stick your finger in the dike, there's a Tsunami coming.

If basement bandits had any talent, experience, vision, or training, they
wouldn't need to undercut prices. And even more importantly, if they had an
IQ above room temperature they wouldn't be sitting at your feet in rapt
attention. Kool-Aid, anybody?

Did the container load of glass make it to Finland, yet? How about those
kilns, still stealing people's money?


Everything we've shipped has arrrived, we're selling more kilns every
day, and people seem pretty happy to send us their money. Will you be
joining us at Vegas?



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