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May 14th 04 01:28 AM

Another Question About Labeling Inks
 
I bought the Micron 005 pens to do my first quilt label. It's so fine that
I'm not able to write very well on the fabric. What am I doing wrong?

Also I tried different practice inks on fabrics, ironed them in and later
washed them to see which ones would wash out and they all did!. Again, what
am I doing wrong.

Thnx for your help.

Barb C.



georg May 14th 04 03:32 AM

wrote:

I bought the Micron 005 pens to do my first quilt label. It's so fine that
I'm not able to write very well on the fabric. What am I doing wrong?

Also I tried different practice inks on fabrics, ironed them in and later
washed them to see which ones would wash out and they all did!. Again, what
am I doing wrong.


Definitely look for the Micron 05, not 005. It'll work much better.

That's the pen I swear by.

I don't know what other pens you have been using.

-georg


Ellison May 14th 04 03:41 AM

Howdy!
Put your label fabric on a piece of sandpaper,
then use the Micron Pigma Pen; works for me every time. ;-)
If the inks you're using for practice are not specifically
permanent-for-fabric, they will likely wash out.
Ironing non-permanent ink doesn'talways/usually make it waterproof,
unless you don't want it to stay, then it will. g

http://www.clotilde.com/cl/
has permanent marking tools in a variety of colors'
here are a few mo
http://www.ezquilt.com/products/notions/permmarkcan.htm

http://www.colortime.com/fabric_mark..._fabric_marker

http://www.dharmatrading.com/markers.html

http://www.dickblick.com/categories/fabricmarkers/

Good luck!
Ragmop/Sandy
wrote in message
.. .
I bought the Micron 005 pens to do my first quilt label. It's so fine

that
I'm not able to write very well on the fabric. What am I doing wrong?

Also I tried different practice inks on fabrics, ironed them in and later
washed them to see which ones would wash out and they all did!. Again,

what
am I doing wrong.

Thnx for your help.

Barb C.





Kate T. May 14th 04 06:43 AM

I've ironed freezer paper on the back of the fabric I make labels out of. I
use the same size Pigma you do and get very good results. I just let it
dry. The ink stays in without setting with a hot iron.

Kate T.
South Mississippi
wrote in message
.. .
I bought the Micron 005 pens to do my first quilt label. It's so fine

that
I'm not able to write very well on the fabric. What am I doing wrong?

Also I tried different practice inks on fabrics, ironed them in and later
washed them to see which ones would wash out and they all did!. Again,

what
am I doing wrong.

Thnx for your help.

Barb C.





Debra May 14th 04 04:21 PM

On Thu, 13 May 2004 20:28:12 -0400, wrote:

I bought the Micron 005 pens to do my first quilt label. It's so fine that
I'm not able to write very well on the fabric. What am I doing wrong?

Also I tried different practice inks on fabrics, ironed them in and later
washed them to see which ones would wash out and they all did!. Again, what
am I doing wrong.

Thnx for your help.

Barb C.


I have been practicing with the same pen size. I have found that I
need to write more like I am using a calligraphy nib pen rather than
like I am using a ball point pen. Going slowly and pulling the pen in
the same direction as the pen is leaning towards seems to get me
better results. Trying to push the pen over the fabric doesn't work
because the fabric isn't smooth like paper is, so the pen nib hangs on
the individual threads in the fabric.

Other things I'm noticing:
The smoother the fabric is, the easier it is to write on. A rough
fabric is harder to get good results with.

The pen writes a different size line than I thought it would, and it's
not a very smooth line. I think that has more to do with the fabric
than the actual pen. Smooth, even lines happen on smooth paper, not
fabric.

If I let the fabric sit overnight the writing seems to look better.
This may be only because I am a little less critical when I look at it
the day after, than I was when I was writing.
Debra in VA

MoragP May 14th 04 04:35 PM

I'm not able to write very well on the fabric. What am I doing wrong?

Have you tried heavily starching the label before you write? I'm not sure it
would work but it would seem to improve the surface for writing. Just a
thought.

Morag Anne in Detroit

May 14th 04 04:54 PM

I would think that the starch may get in the way of the ink contacting
the fabric. When my work shirts are nicely starched they don't absorb
stains as easily.

Not sure if I am right. This is just me thinking out loud :)

Julie
Richmond, VA

said...
I'm not able to write very well on the fabric. What am I doing wrong?

Have you tried heavily starching the label before you write? I'm not sure it
would work but it would seem to improve the surface for writing. Just a
thought.

Morag Anne in Detroit


Kathy Applebaum May 14th 04 05:05 PM

Starch is commonly used as a resist in dyeing, so I'm with you. Starch may
interfere with the ink. (i.e.. the ink adheres to the starch, but the starch
washes away and carries the ink with it.)

Putting freezer paper on the back of the fabric or putting the fabric onto a
fine piece of sandpaper works for me.

--
Kathy A. (Woodland, CA)
longarm machine quilting, Queen of Fabric Tramps
http://www.kayneyquilting.com ,
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wrote in message
.net...
I would think that the starch may get in the way of the ink contacting
the fabric. When my work shirts are nicely starched they don't absorb
stains as easily.

Not sure if I am right. This is just me thinking out loud :)

Julie
Richmond, VA

said...
I'm not able to write very well on the fabric. What am I doing

wrong?

Have you tried heavily starching the label before you write? I'm not

sure it
would work but it would seem to improve the surface for writing. Just a
thought.

Morag Anne in Detroit




MoragP May 14th 04 05:26 PM

Yep! You're probably right. Maybe what's needed is a different fabric for the
label. Something with a higher thread count.

Morag Anne

May 14th 04 10:46 PM

Thnx to all for the suggestions. What I finally settled with is the 05 pen
instead of the 005. It works great. Thnx again.

Barb C.


"MoragP" wrote in message
...
Yep! You're probably right. Maybe what's needed is a different fabric for

the
label. Something with a higher thread count.

Morag Anne





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