Need help with a knot...
 

Hey there,
I know nothing about knots, bends, hitches, etc. and am looking for some
advice.
I've been meaning to pick up a book but haven't gotten to it yet (any
suggestions?).
Anyway, I have a question. I would like to know a good knot (?) that will
give me a loop in the middle of a line that I can bring the end of the line
back through to cinch against. What I am actually looking for is one that
is easily undone. I hope that makes sense. The one I use now works but the
knot gets very tight when I cinch and it is difficult to undue. Can someone
here point me in the right direction or tell me the right terminology so I
know what to search for.
Thanks.
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BeerBoy

On Tue, 01 June, BeerBoy wrote:

Hey there,
I know nothing about knots, bends, hitches, etc. and am looking for some
advice.
I've been meaning to pick up a book but haven't gotten to it yet (any
suggestions?).
Anyway, I have a question. I would like to know a good knot (?) that will
give me a loop in the middle of a line that I can bring the end of the line
back through to cinch against. What I am actually looking for is one that
is easily undone. I hope that makes sense. The one I use now works but the
knot gets very tight when I cinch and it is difficult to undue. Can someone
here point me in the right direction or tell me the right terminology so I
know what to search for.
Thanks.

The classic knot to tie yourself a loop in the middle of a rope that
will hold in both directions, will not slip, and is relatively easy to
untie is the Butterfly Knot. It's also known as the Alpine
Butterfly. You can see an explanation and diagrams at:

http://www.chockstone.org/TechTips/Butterfly.htm

Regards,
O J

O J wrote:

On Tue, 01 June, BeerBoy wrote:

...I would like to know a good knot (?) that will
give me a loop in the middle of a line that I can bring the end of the line
back through to cinch against.

The classic knot to tie yourself a loop in the middle of a rope that
will hold in both directions, will not slip, and is relatively easy to
untie is the Butterfly Knot. It's also known as the Alpine
Butterfly. You can see an explanation and diagrams at:

http://www.chockstone.org/TechTips/Butterfly.htm

Beerboy,
If your news reader will let you go back about 8 days there was a very
informative discussion about this very knot starting on the 24th of May
under the subject line: "loop on the bight"
or visit Google groups with this URL:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...c.crafts.knots

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On Tue, 01 June, BeerBoy wrote:

Hey there,
I know nothing about knots, bends, hitches, etc. and am looking for some
advice.
I've been meaning to pick up a book but haven't gotten to it yet (any
suggestions?).
Anyway, I have a question. I would like to know a good knot (?) that
will
give me a loop in the middle of a line that I can bring the end of the
line
back through to cinch against. What I am actually looking for is one
that
is easily undone. I hope that makes sense. The one I use now works but
the
knot gets very tight when I cinch and it is difficult to undue. Can
someone
here point me in the right direction or tell me the right terminology so
I
know what to search for.
Thanks.

The classic knot to tie yourself a loop in the middle of a rope that
will hold in both directions, will not slip, and is relatively easy to
untie is the Butterfly Knot. It's also known as the Alpine
Butterfly. You can see an explanation and diagrams at:

http://www.chockstone.org/TechTips/Butterfly.htm

Regards,
O J

That takes care of the loop in the middle but I got the impression the OP
then wants to use that loop to cinch something down. If that is the case
then he can take that Alpine Butterfly and use it to make a 'Versatackle'
which I feel is what he is after. There is a link to a 'Versatackle' below.

http://www.geocities.com/roo_two/Versatackle.html

Another alternative is the 'Truckers Hitch' shown below, but this does
require tension to be applied at all times to stop it slacking off.

http://www.mitsu4wdclubqld.org/tips/...ed_part_ii.htm

HTH,

Larry Green

I don't have a lot to add to the info already offered, just based on
what BeerBoy describes. I'd imagine a Lineman's Loop would fit the
bill in terms of the loop, but if he's still not satisfied with its
ease of untying, another alternative is a general purpose loop on the
bight (away from the rope ends) called the Span Loop:

http://www.geocities.com/roo_two/spanloop.html

BeerBoy, before you go out and pick up the Ashley Book of Knots (good
book, two thumbs up), you can browse my knot pages to see if they
help. It shouldn't take too long. You might start with this page of
quick definitions:

http://www.geocities.com/roo_two/glossary.html

Good luck,
roo

Thanks for all the help people!
The butterfly/lineman loop is exactly what I'm after. Thanks for the links
to the knot pages too. Very interesting stuff.
Since I got such a great response to my 1st question, I'll ask another.
What is your favourite kind of rope for camping or odd jobs like tying up a
load on a pickup?
Thanks again.

-=-BeerBoy