Buyer Question

[starlia]

I have a general interest in Native American styles that would be
incorporated into my art work. My art consists mostly of glass and oil
paintings.

As far as the glass beads are concerned, is there any interest in seeing
some Native American designs incorporated into contemporary jewelry? I know
very little of my own background because my grandmother was ashamed of being
Choctaw. She did not discuss a lot of her mother's experiences with me, but
she did share stories. As I uncover more and more history, I see some
really cool designs I would like to incorporate. However, I'm trying to get
a pulse on what others want.

Please share your opinions with me. I do value all of your interests and
concerns. ....and if anyone can help me figure out free form peyote I would
be forever grateful! I love it, but I can't figure it out.

--
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Saucy on JustBeads http://www.justbeads.com/search/ql.cfm?s=starlia

[Harry]

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 14:40:40 -0600, "starlia" > wrote:

>I have a general interest in Native American styles that would be
>incorporated into my art work. My art consists mostly of glass and oil
>paintings.
>
>As far as the glass beads are concerned, is there any interest in seeing
>some Native American designs incorporated into contemporary jewelry? I know
>very little of my own background because my grandmother was ashamed of being
>Choctaw. She did not discuss a lot of her mother's experiences with me, but
>she did share stories. As I uncover more and more history, I see some
>really cool designs I would like to incorporate. However, I'm trying to get
>a pulse on what others want.
>
>Please share your opinions with me. I do value all of your interests and
>concerns. ....and if anyone can help me figure out free form peyote I would
>be forever grateful! I love it, but I can't figure it out.
<
OK... I for one would love to see your new wrok. Here is a link that
may or may not help you:
Flat Even Count Peyote Stitch Beading
http://www.beadwork.about.com/library/weekly/aa071497.htm

Harry
My Ebay Auctions are at http://snipurl.com/3okw

[starlia]

Thank you Roxan. I am going to my first Choctaw fair in July. I can't
wait. Since it's a very small nation it's hard to get more information, but
I think our connections at the powwows have helped a lot.

I can't wait to try the freeform! Again, thanks bunches!

"roxan" > wrote in message
...
> As far as for me I like traditional Native American work. If I were you I
> would study your own Native background and honor your own expression of
it.
> As far a pictures of Native Americans, I don't like made of versions of
what
> people think they may have looked like, but an accurate account of what
they
> wore and used reflects honoring them in a true and respectful manner. I
have
> worked with many Native Americans and the one thing they dislike is being
> represented as something they are not.
> Freeform peyote is very easy since you really can't make a mistake in
doing
> it. This first site gives you a good idea of how to create a piece of
> freeform peyote.
> http://www.whimbeads.com/classroom/freeform.html
> http://www.beadyboop.com/instruct.htm
> http://www.guidetobeadwork.com/book/
>
> Roxan
>
> "starlia" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I have a general interest in Native American styles that would be
> > incorporated into my art work. My art consists mostly of glass and oil
> > paintings.
> >
> > As far as the glass beads are concerned, is there any interest in seeing
> > some Native American designs incorporated into contemporary jewelry? I
> know
> > very little of my own background because my grandmother was ashamed of
> being
> > Choctaw. She did not discuss a lot of her mother's experiences with me,
> but
> > she did share stories. As I uncover more and more history, I see some
> > really cool designs I would like to incorporate. However, I'm trying to
> get
> > a pulse on what others want.
> >
> > Please share your opinions with me. I do value all of your interests
and
> > concerns. ....and if anyone can help me figure out free form peyote I
> would
> > be forever grateful! I love it, but I can't figure it out.
> >
> > --
> > Saucy Glassworks
> > Saucy on eBay http://stores.ebay.com/id=24794712&ssPageName=L2
> > Saucy on JustBeads http://www.justbeads.com/search/ql.cfm?s=starlia
> >
> >
>

[roxan]

As far as for me I like traditional Native American work. If I were you I
would study your own Native background and honor your own expression of it.
As far a pictures of Native Americans, I don't like made of versions of what
people think they may have looked like, but an accurate account of what they
wore and used reflects honoring them in a true and respectful manner. I have
worked with many Native Americans and the one thing they dislike is being
represented as something they are not.
Freeform peyote is very easy since you really can't make a mistake in doing
it. This first site gives you a good idea of how to create a piece of
freeform peyote.
http://www.whimbeads.com/classroom/freeform.html
http://www.beadyboop.com/instruct.htm
http://www.guidetobeadwork.com/book/

Roxan

"starlia" > wrote in message
...
> I have a general interest in Native American styles that would be
> incorporated into my art work. My art consists mostly of glass and oil
> paintings.
>
> As far as the glass beads are concerned, is there any interest in seeing
> some Native American designs incorporated into contemporary jewelry? I
know
> very little of my own background because my grandmother was ashamed of
being
> Choctaw. She did not discuss a lot of her mother's experiences with me,
but
> she did share stories. As I uncover more and more history, I see some
> really cool designs I would like to incorporate. However, I'm trying to
get
> a pulse on what others want.
>
> Please share your opinions with me. I do value all of your interests and
> concerns. ....and if anyone can help me figure out free form peyote I
would
> be forever grateful! I love it, but I can't figure it out.
>
> --
> Saucy Glassworks
> Saucy on eBay http://stores.ebay.com/id=24794712&ssPageName=L2
> Saucy on JustBeads http://www.justbeads.com/search/ql.cfm?s=starlia
>
>

[roxan]

You are welcome, let us see what you do with your creativity. Search the web
for information on Choctaw designs etc.
Roxan
"starlia" > wrote in message
...
> Thank you Roxan. I am going to my first Choctaw fair in July. I can't
> wait. Since it's a very small nation it's hard to get more information,
but
> I think our connections at the powwows have helped a lot.
>
> I can't wait to try the freeform! Again, thanks bunches!
>
> "roxan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > As far as for me I like traditional Native American work. If I were you
I
> > would study your own Native background and honor your own expression of
> it.
> > As far a pictures of Native Americans, I don't like made of versions of
> what
> > people think they may have looked like, but an accurate account of what
> they
> > wore and used reflects honoring them in a true and respectful manner. I
> have
> > worked with many Native Americans and the one thing they dislike is
being
> > represented as something they are not.
> > Freeform peyote is very easy since you really can't make a mistake in
> doing
> > it. This first site gives you a good idea of how to create a piece of
> > freeform peyote.
> > http://www.whimbeads.com/classroom/freeform.html
> > http://www.beadyboop.com/instruct.htm
> > http://www.guidetobeadwork.com/book/
> >
> > Roxan
> >
> > "starlia" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I have a general interest in Native American styles that would be
> > > incorporated into my art work. My art consists mostly of glass and
oil
> > > paintings.
> > >
> > > As far as the glass beads are concerned, is there any interest in
seeing
> > > some Native American designs incorporated into contemporary jewelry?
I
> > know
> > > very little of my own background because my grandmother was ashamed of
> > being
> > > Choctaw. She did not discuss a lot of her mother's experiences with
me,
> > but
> > > she did share stories. As I uncover more and more history, I see some
> > > really cool designs I would like to incorporate. However, I'm trying
to
> > get
> > > a pulse on what others want.
> > >
> > > Please share your opinions with me. I do value all of your interests
> and
> > > concerns. ....and if anyone can help me figure out free form peyote I
> > would
> > > be forever grateful! I love it, but I can't figure it out.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Saucy Glassworks
> > > Saucy on eBay http://stores.ebay.com/id=24794712&ssPageName=L2
> > > Saucy on JustBeads http://www.justbeads.com/search/ql.cfm?s=starlia
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

[Dr. Sooz]

> ....and if anyone can help me figure out free form peyote I would
>be forever grateful! I love it, but I can't figure it out.

There's nothing to figure out, really. You just do what you want, and change
stuff as you go along. But here's one link to help a little.....

Freeform Peyote Bracelet - Beadwork - 06/29/98
http://snipurl.com/4iks
~~
Sooz
-------
"Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John
Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance
~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html

[Debbie B]

Hey thanks Sooz. I checked that out and like it. Will have to try it.

--
Debbie (New Mexico)
Life is too short


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[DreamBeadr]

> Will have to try it.

Debbie, Freeform is so...well, freeform. You have to be willing to let your
mind wander free and let the beads do all the talking. It took so much out of
me the first time I tried a freeform piece of beadwork. I liked my beadwork
all orderly and I liked to tell the beads what to do. I struggled with the
concept for years. I was finally able to just shut my brain up and let loose
one day. I created a sort of tutorial for others...maybe it will help you out
a bit too:
http://www.whimbeads.com/classroom/freeform.html

Just play!
Beki
http://www.whimbeads.com

[Carla]

DreamBeadr wrote:

> Debbie, Freeform is so...well, freeform. You have to be willing to let your
> mind wander free and let the beads do all the talking. It took so much out of
> me the first time I tried a freeform piece of beadwork. I liked my beadwork
> all orderly and I liked to tell the beads what to do. I struggled with the
> concept for years. I was finally able to just shut my brain up and let loose
> one day. I created a sort of tutorial for others...maybe it will help you out
> a bit too:
> http://www.whimbeads.com/classroom/freeform.html

This is neat; I used your page as a reference when I was first trying
out freeform peyote about, oh...three years ago. I still never *quite*
got the hang of it, but my husband tells me I'm a control freak :)

Here's a link to my attempts -
http://home.earthlink.net/~sardonyx/jewelry/freeform.jpg

Top - first finished piece, with hook and eye closure.
Middle - never finished.
Bottom - not peyote, just freeform.


Cheers,
Carla

[Lee S. Billings]

In article et>,
says...
>
>DreamBeadr wrote:
>
>> Debbie, Freeform is so...well, freeform. You have to be willing to let your
>> mind wander free and let the beads do all the talking.
>
>This is neat; I used your page as a reference when I was first trying
>out freeform peyote about, oh...three years ago. I still never *quite*
>got the hang of it, but my husband tells me I'm a control freak :)

Don't feel bad, Carla. I am deeply envious of people who can do "random"
anything and get it to look good. My skill is just not in that direction!

Celine

--
Handmade jewelry at http://www.rubylane.com/shops/starcat
"Only the powers of evil claim that doing good is boring."
-- Diane Duane, _Nightfall at Algemron_

[JL Amerson]

YOU TOO?? I keep telling people I need "random" graphed out for my work.

I've only realized during the last three years that I am also a bit of a
control freak. Oh well - could be alot worse!
--

JoAnn

Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will **** on
your computer.
--Bruce Graham





"Lee S. Billings" > wrote in message
k.net...
> In article et>,
> says...
> >
> >DreamBeadr wrote:
> >
> >> Debbie, Freeform is so...well, freeform. You have to be willing to let
your
> >> mind wander free and let the beads do all the talking.
> >
> >This is neat; I used your page as a reference when I was first trying
> >out freeform peyote about, oh...three years ago. I still never *quite*
> >got the hang of it, but my husband tells me I'm a control freak :)
>
> Don't feel bad, Carla. I am deeply envious of people who can do "random"
> anything and get it to look good. My skill is just not in that direction!
>
> Celine
>
> --
> Handmade jewelry at http://www.rubylane.com/shops/starcat
> "Only the powers of evil claim that doing good is boring."
> -- Diane Duane, _Nightfall at Algemron_
>

[DreamBeadr]

> I still never *quite*
>got the hang of it, but my husband tells me I'm a control freak :)

Well, from the looks of those photos you were headed in the freeform direction.
=o)
I love your color choices!

Beki
http://www.whimbeads.com

[Dr. Sooz]

> I created a sort of tutorial for others...maybe it will help you out
>a bit too:
>http://www.whimbeads.com/classroom/freeform.html

This will be added to the LL. Thank you, dolling.
~~
Sooz
-------
"Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John
Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance
~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html

[Dr. Sooz]

Random beading is, IMO, a lot harder than symmetrical, even stuff. A *lot*
harder. I agonize over it, and I consider it my special-i-ty.
~~
Sooz
-------
"Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John
Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance
~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html

[Dr. Sooz]

Love them....that bottom one is so ocean-y.
>http://home.earthlink.net/~sardonyx/jewelry/freeform.jpg
>
>Top - first finished piece, with hook and eye closure.
>Middle - never finished.
>Bottom - not peyote, just freeform.


~~
Sooz
-------
"Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John
Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance
~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html

[Jalynne]

I really like the bottom one, too...shoot...i don't have enough hours in the day....
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Queen Gypsy (snail mail available upon request)
see what i've been up to at www.100megsfree4.com/jalynne
See what DH is up to at http://www.teamintraining.org/participant/kinney-162652

"Dr. Sooz" > wrote in message
...
> Love them....that bottom one is so ocean-y.
> >http://home.earthlink.net/~sardonyx/jewelry/freeform.jpg
> >
> >Top - first finished piece, with hook and eye closure.
> >Middle - never finished.
> >Bottom - not peyote, just freeform.
>
>
> ~~
> Sooz
> -------
> "Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John
> Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance
> ~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
> http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html

[Carla]

Dr. Sooz wrote:

> Love them....that bottom one is so ocean-y.

Thanks a bunch. It's a technique I may go back to when I've got more time.

I was just admiring your lampwork, btw. Incredible!

Cheers,
Carla

[Carla]

Jalynne wrote:

> I really like the bottom one, too...shoot...i don't have enough hours in the day....

Thanks, Jalynne :)

Yeah, wouldn't it be great to have a day-stretcher?

Cheers,
Carla

p.s. really cute ornament hooks. what a great idea.

[Jalynne]

Thanks! Someone posted a link to some mass produced type ones, and i thought i'd like
mine to have more personality...so...that's how those came about. I make a couple
every few days, so maybe by next year i'll have enough for each ornament that goes on
the tree. I doubt it, but one never knows.
--
Jalynne - Keeper of the Quilt for ME club list
Queen Gypsy (snail mail available upon request)
see what i've been up to at www.100megsfree4.com/jalynne
See what DH is up to at http://www.teamintraining.org/participant/kinney-162652

"Carla" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Jalynne wrote:
>
> > I really like the bottom one, too...shoot...i don't have enough hours in the
day....
>
> Thanks, Jalynne :)
>
> Yeah, wouldn't it be great to have a day-stretcher?
>
> Cheers,
> Carla
>
> p.s. really cute ornament hooks. what a great idea.
>

[Dr. Sooz]

>I was just admiring your lampwork, btw. Incredible!

Not mine, not mine, not mine. Lots of people confuse this issue.

Kandice is the lampworker, and it is HER website. The Links List and Bead
Notes -- mine. She just allows me to post my junk on her site.
~~
Sooz
-------
"Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John
Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance
~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html