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Christina Peterson
July 13th 03, 01:58 AM
Hi Mel,

This is a hard post to answer. So I'm going to take points as they come up.
It's a tough letter, but nothing is meant to be judgemental. Not everything
is say is necessarily about you. And I mean well.

First thing is, cop to owing those utility bills. You used the power, you
owe for it. To fight about whether or not you do makes you look dishonest.
So establish your honesty. Also tell him what's going on and why you can't
pay. A lot of landlords know about other ways rent can be paid. Agencies
that can help.

My mind is a sieve for details, so I hope someone else can tell you about
possible agencies.

Hitting. It's great that you aren't allowing yourself to be hit, especially
(but not limited to) in front of your son.

So what next? Are you going to let him back, either out of affection or
monetary need? Most women do. I think the average number of escapes from
an abuser is 13, before someone finally gets out. When you're ready to
commit to re-building your life, you will do it. If you file a restraining
order, there's about a 10% chance it will make him more violent. So
committing to leaving will be a whole change of your life. It's OK to try
to leave and fail. Just try harder next time.

Until you're ready to make that complete change you will be stuck in
problems like the one with your landlord. So you need tactics to survive
within the situation. You must develop some autonomy, including finding a
way to earn some money. Even if it's not enough to live on but gives you
experience. You might work daycare, which pays little, but allows you to
bring your child, and gives you work experience. Do you have other work
experience? Is there work you could do from home?

When you are ready to make the huge step to leave, there will be different
questions and solutions. At that time, you should go to a specialist. Go
to a women's shelter. They also have long term housing. And they have
great connections. Family centered services. Vocational rehab. Child
services. I don't know the agencies, but there are a lot of them. And they
will work with you instead of working against you if you ask for help.

Some of the things that might be required of you for such help include:
Abstention from alcohol, etc, because even a little will get peoples' backs
up. Some therapy, because most abuse victims need to address co-dependency
issued to heal from victimization. Job training. And very often you have
to give up things. Like furniture and stuff that keeps your from being fit
into a place of refuge. You'll need a new definition of humble -- which
means not to claim to be more than you are (like above help, etc), but also
not to claim to be less than you are.

There is light at the end of the tunnel. I found it. Others here have
found it. It's never easy, but lots of people can gotten through that
tunnel.

Meanwhile, how can we help you?

Tina


"Melx2" > wrote in message
om...
> Hi guys, I know I don't post to often, but when I've needed you all,
> you've been there. Just a lttile update. First I've been fighting
> with my landlord about utility bills from when I first moved in and he
> didn't put in a request for dissconnect, and I refused to pay them
> unless I had hard copies of the bill. On top of that last week I put
> my husband out, becusae he hit me in front of my 4yr old son. So, of
> course the money is funny and the landlord is breathing down my neck,
> with no childcare I can't even take a pt job to try and pick-up the
> slack. My god what do I do to get throught this. I want to just cry,
> there has to be a light a the end of this tunnel. ~~~HELP in the
> DARK~~~

BeckiBead
July 13th 03, 02:23 AM
HI MEL, sorry things suck. do you have any options sweetie? Family, friends
who are there and can help you?


Becki
"In between the moon and you, the angels have a better view of the crumbling
difference between wrong and right.." -- Counting Crows

Dr. Sooz
July 13th 03, 05:40 PM
>Also tell him what's going on and why you can't
>pay. A lot of landlords know about other ways rent can be paid.

He is not helpful. He's an immigrant, and has found, since moving to the US,
that many people are gullible and that he can get away with a lot of shady
stuff with his tenants. Melissa is well-informed and smart, and hasn't taken
his lies -- and so he uses evasion and threats with her! Can you imagine?!?!
~~
Sooz
-------
ESBC
Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making
exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne

Dr. Sooz
July 13th 03, 05:41 PM
>So what next? Are you going to let him back, either out of affection or
>monetary need?

Oh hell no! She got a restraining order and put him in jail immediately. He's
now 500 miles away.
~~
Sooz
-------
ESBC
Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making
exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne

Dr. Sooz
July 13th 03, 05:44 PM
>You must develop some autonomy, including finding a
>way to earn some money.

She works for us and owns her own business making jewelry -- she was talking
about another job.

>When you are ready to make the huge step to leave, there will be different
>questions and solutions. At that time, you should go to a specialist. Go
>to a women's shelter.

She kicked the husband out and immediately changed the locks.


~~
Sooz
-------
ESBC
Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making
exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne

Christina Peterson
July 13th 03, 10:21 PM
This is great. I thought she was your Melissa, Sooz, but I couldn't
remember for sure. So I told her what I'd tell anyone who told me that
story.

The first thing is always to examine your situation with painful honesty.
Looks like you have done so, Melissa. That squares with how I know you to
be, too.

And I'm so glad to know you're going to make a better life, as most women
are not able to do. It doesn't make things easier, but it makes things
much, much more productive.

First worry for me would be the personal safety of myself (and my son).
(Duh). Will you be in fear of your physical well-being or will he leave you
alone? If you can get a scholarship for a Model Mugging class (based on
need) take it. The class is very expensive ($400 I think) but makes a real
difference, and they give scholarships. I recommend it to anyone. And they
teach it in Oakland, SF, and Sacramento.

So, if you're safe, is money the main problem? Was the dead-beat helping
pay bills or was he a drain on you. In other words, without his expenses
can you make it on what you make, once you are up to date? Is there an
agency that will pay your rent? There are a bunch of them around, but I
don't know what they are. I would even say to lie, er I mean slant your
story, if you have to, if that will force the agencies that are supposed
give you a useful hand to do so.

When I went to Voc Rehab 10 years ago or so, they were able to pay for 4
years of university tuition, books, childcare if needed, and arrange social
services. (Unfortunately, depression prevented me from taking full
advantage -- though I didn't know at the time). Women's shelters, even if
you don't stay in one, are still an excellent resource for information,
especially on available services.

I'm about the worst person to make suggestions about income, because I've
never done well in that area. I'm much better at telling people how to live
simply.

Who do you sell your jewelry too? Can you sell it on eBay? I have surgical
steel findings that I don't use; could you use them?

Melissa, keep in mind that when people give advise, it's a reflection of
their experiences, not your value. So if my observations are askew, it is
not a criticism of you.

Tina

PS. Hey Sooz, are you up to organizing a BFGR, Beads For Good Reason?



"Dr. Sooz" > wrote in message
...
> >You must develop some autonomy, including finding a
> >way to earn some money.
>
> She works for us and owns her own business making jewelry -- she was
talking
> about another job.
>
> >When you are ready to make the huge step to leave, there will be
different
> >questions and solutions. At that time, you should go to a specialist.
Go
> >to a women's shelter.
>
> She kicked the husband out and immediately changed the locks.
>
>
> ~~
> Sooz
> -------
> ESBC
> Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
> http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
> One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making
> exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne
>

SmartAlecBlonde4
July 13th 03, 10:25 PM
>
>She kicked the husband out and immediately changed the locks.
>Sooz
>-------

Sooz, it sounds like she needs alot of support and friendship and she is
getting it from you. I'm glad that the husband is many miles away from her and
hopefully he doesn't start bugging her.

Jo Jo

Kalera Stratton
July 14th 03, 12:26 AM
In article >,
(Dr. Sooz) wrote:

> She does owe it, and wouldn't be not-paying, except her shady landlord would
> not show her how much they were -- he only *said* how much they were, and
> then
> tried to force the issue. i.e., no hard copy, no proof that what he said was
> true! What a scam! Apparently he'd done this with previous tenants, and
> they
> just blindly paid whatever he said. Melissa's been insisting for months that
> he show her proof that the amount was what he said it was (the bills still
> being sent to his house, not hers, because he hadn't disconnected the
> service).
> So of course there's no way you pay a bill someone just says is X amount.
> (She got legal advice on this one.)


Is the bill in her name? Can she call the utility and get a copy?

--
-Kalera
Mom of Juliet, 5, Sam, 3, and Ophelia, born 5/31/03
Wife of the incomparable Moxley of www.spaceplex.com
See us at www.strattonhome.org

Christina Peterson
July 14th 03, 02:23 AM
Mel,

Can you sell things on Telegraph?

Within a couple block of Sooz, on MLKJ, there used to be a couple bead
stores. One the corner they sold stones, but it been gon a little while.
Is the bead store still there, on the side of the street toward the Bay. It
was called Zwinbayu or something odd like that.

Tina


"Melx2" > wrote in message
om...
> Hi guys, I know I don't post to often, but when I've needed you all,
> you've been there. Just a lttile update. First I've been fighting
> with my landlord about utility bills from when I first moved in and he
> didn't put in a request for dissconnect, and I refused to pay them
> unless I had hard copies of the bill. On top of that last week I put
> my husband out, becusae he hit me in front of my 4yr old son. So, of
> course the money is funny and the landlord is breathing down my neck,
> with no childcare I can't even take a pt job to try and pick-up the
> slack. My god what do I do to get throught this. I want to just cry,
> there has to be a light a the end of this tunnel. ~~~HELP in the
> DARK~~~

Dr. Sooz
July 14th 03, 07:43 AM
>PS. Hey Sooz, are you up to organizing a BFGR, Beads For Good Reason?

Others may have to take over for me if there is a BFGR, though I am totally
behind the project. Mel needs just a boost to keep from going under. I had
what I think was a gall bladder attack last night while Kevin and I were coming
home from dinner on the bus. I could hardly walk. I slept all day today. I
am going to bed NOW.
~~
Sooz
-------
ESBC
Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making
exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne

Dr. Sooz
July 14th 03, 07:44 AM
>Is the bill in her name? Can she call the utility and get a copy?

Nope, tried that (bill is in his name).
~~
Sooz
-------
ESBC
Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making
exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne

Kandice Seeber
July 14th 03, 07:46 AM
I'd be happy to do it! Send everything to me. :) Better yet - email me if
you'd like to participate - I will gather up a list and send out some info.
Hehehehe watch out Mel!!!

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net
"Dr. Sooz" > wrote in message
...
> >PS. Hey Sooz, are you up to organizing a BFGR, Beads For Good Reason?
>
> Others may have to take over for me if there is a BFGR, though I am
totally
> behind the project. Mel needs just a boost to keep from going under. I
had
> what I think was a gall bladder attack last night while Kevin and I were
coming
> home from dinner on the bus. I could hardly walk. I slept all day today.
I
> am going to bed NOW.
> ~~
> Sooz
> -------
> ESBC
> Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
> http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
> One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making
> exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne
>

Paula Hunter
July 14th 03, 01:47 PM
YES it does, and it will. As awful as this situation does seem, it will
pass. Things have a wonderful way of working out for the better. Just be
the best Person and Mother you can be, hold on to your hat and ride out this
storm. Start thinking, little by little, how you want to make your money ect
and then persuse. In the meanwhile go to Social Services and get all the
help you can.

You take one step, God will take two.

Sign me, been there done that and am Grateful and Happy at the end of the
day....

Paula

--

Melx2
July 14th 03, 05:42 PM
Goood Morning, sorry that it so long to reply, but I just got the
chance to read all the threads. Yes, and no about the drain issue.
Once I'm out of the whole then I'll be able to support myself fine.
I'm just not the type of person to wallow in self pitty. Needed
support and other opinions to help make my final decisions. As for
him bothering me, it is un-nerving and inferiorating, but I
continously file police reports and Will press the DA's office to
press charges and issue warrants. I will be vigulant about this one.
The divorce is on the way, I can't take any more and my sanity is more
important. I will be posting some items for sale on Justbeads.com
over the next few days. To try and earn more money. I have checked
the agencies about helping with rent and of course I earn just a
little bit to much money for them to consider helping me. Time will
heal all and I will learn and grow from this mistake. God Bless and
stop making me cry, I'm not suppose to be all sensative and smushie.
Love Melx2
Justbeads seller name (msrush)





"Christina Peterson" > wrote in message
news:<1058145789.574270@prawn>...
> Mel,
>
> Can you sell things on Telegraph?
>
> Within a couple block of Sooz, on MLKJ, there used to be a couple bead
> stores. One the corner they sold stones, but it been gon a little while.
> Is the bead store still there, on the side of the street toward the Bay. It
> was called Zwinbayu or something odd like that.
>
> Tina
>
>
> "Melx2" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Hi guys, I know I don't post to often, but when I've needed you all,
> > you've been there. Just a lttile update. First I've been fighting
> > with my landlord about utility bills from when I first moved in and he
> > didn't put in a request for dissconnect, and I refused to pay them
> > unless I had hard copies of the bill. On top of that last week I put
> > my husband out, becusae he hit me in front of my 4yr old son. So, of
> > course the money is funny and the landlord is breathing down my neck,
> > with no childcare I can't even take a pt job to try and pick-up the
> > slack. My god what do I do to get throught this. I want to just cry,
> > there has to be a light a the end of this tunnel. ~~~HELP in the
> > DARK~~~

Dr. Sooz
July 14th 03, 10:54 PM
Haw haw haw! I know. :-)

>I'm sorry! I was speaking from a general, corporate point of view. When
>I've employed people privately, I always paid all I could, because their
>labor made mine possible.
>
>I'm delighted that Mel's a goddess and that you love her mad skilz. I won't
>give any more job hunting advice. (Mel, don't read my post, or if you did -
>don't listen to me. Be like my kids)
>
>Kathy N-V


~~
Sooz
-------
ESBC
Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making
exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne

Dr. Sooz
July 15th 03, 01:19 AM
Wow, you guys! Sheesh. >blushing< (I just like to enable)

>> And that famous Sooz Effuse...
>> thats definately something. Do you know how many people feel encouraged by
>> your words?
>> Worth its weight in PMC.
>> Diana
>> ps.. you can claim to FEEL as tho you accomplish nothing but thats another
>> ball of wax.
>
>PMC Gold.


~~
Sooz
-------
ESBC
Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making
exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne

Christina Peterson
July 15th 03, 01:34 AM
HAW!!!

Tina


"Dr. Sooz" > wrote in message
...
> Wow, you guys! Sheesh. >blushing< (I just like to enable)
>

Dr. Sooz
July 15th 03, 01:43 AM
>Darn. Is there a local housing authority to whom you could turn, or an
>agency that keeps records of complaints against landlords?

I believe she's gone that route too. Mel is very thorough. (I'm so glad she
works for us!) The guy fended her off for months, and now he says he's going
to (finally) show her the bills and she has to pay them all at once. After all
this time. (I'm loading my gun) ;-)
~~
Sooz
-------
ESBC
Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making
exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne

Diana Curtis
July 15th 03, 01:48 AM
And that famous Sooz Effuse...
thats definately something. Do you know how many people feel encouraged by
your words?
Worth its weight in PMC.
Diana
ps.. you can claim to FEEL as tho you accomplish nothing but thats another
ball of wax.

--
"vj" wrote ...
(Dr.
> Sooz) :
>
> ]Lots of times I don't. Get anything done. :-P Bleh.
>
> you're here.
> sharing information.
> that counts as "anything".
>
>
> -----------
> @vicki [SnuggleWench]
> (Books) http://www.booksnbytes.com
> (Jewelry) http://www.vickijean.com

Melx2
July 15th 03, 01:53 AM
Don't worry I'm not Leaving Sooz, that's my second home. Hell thet
treat me far better than my family. Thanks Agian for all the
wonderful support. You all are Angels
Love Melx2




(Dr. Sooz) wrote in message >...
> >dear gods, girl!
> >
> >how you manage to get ANYTHING done is amazing!
>
> Lots of times I don't. Get anything done. :-P Bleh.
> ~~
> Sooz
> -------
> ESBC
> Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
> http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
> One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making
> exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne

Christina Peterson
July 15th 03, 05:29 AM
You know, Kandice, if we sent things to Sooz, Melissa could just pick things
up there.

Tina


"Christina Peterson" > wrote in message
news:1058167394.728246@prawn...
> Great. I think I'll add something for rent too.
>
> Tina
>
>
> "Kandice Seeber" > wrote in message
> news:TksQa.56698$N7.7195@sccrnsc03...
> > I'd be happy to do it! Send everything to me. :) Better yet - email
me
> if
> > you'd like to participate - I will gather up a list and send out some
> info.
> > Hehehehe watch out Mel!!!
> >
> > --
> > Kandice Seeber
> > Air & Earth Designs
> > http://www.lampwork.net
> > "Dr. Sooz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > >PS. Hey Sooz, are you up to organizing a BFGR, Beads For Good
Reason?
> > >
> > > Others may have to take over for me if there is a BFGR, though I am
> > totally
> > > behind the project. Mel needs just a boost to keep from going under.
I
> > had
> > > what I think was a gall bladder attack last night while Kevin and I
were
> > coming
> > > home from dinner on the bus. I could hardly walk. I slept all day
> today.
> > I
> > > am going to bed NOW.
> > > ~~
> > > Sooz
> > > -------
> > > ESBC
> > > Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
> > > http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
> > > One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly
> making
> > > exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Christina Peterson
July 15th 03, 07:24 AM
Hi Melissa,

I know you're not the whining sort. I'm relieved that it's the immediate
situation rather than an on-going think. And I proud of you for doing what
Pete calls "taking back your power".

Also, remember that you probably have situational Depression right now.
That doesn't mean you're depressed about the situation, but rather, that the
Depression should heal as the situation gets better. So do the things that
Sooz and I and several others here have to do. Don't squander your mental
energy. Prioritize. Don't use up your energy fretting, or putting on a big
"I'm OK" show. Give yourself good food, and enough sleep. Fresh air and
walking are very, very helpful. And remember you are loved.

Tina


"Melx2" > wrote in message
om...
> Goood Morning, sorry that it so long to reply, but I just got the
> chance to read all the threads. Yes, and no about the drain issue.
> Once I'm out of the whole then I'll be able to support myself fine.
> I'm just not the type of person to wallow in self pitty. Needed
> support and other opinions to help make my final decisions. As for
> him bothering me, it is un-nerving and inferiorating, but I
> continously file police reports and Will press the DA's office to
> press charges and issue warrants. I will be vigulant about this one.
> The divorce is on the way, I can't take any more and my sanity is more
> important. I will be posting some items for sale on Justbeads.com
> over the next few days. To try and earn more money. I have checked
> the agencies about helping with rent and of course I earn just a
> little bit to much money for them to consider helping me. Time will
> heal all and I will learn and grow from this mistake. God Bless and
> stop making me cry, I'm not suppose to be all sensative and smushie.
> Love Melx2
> Justbeads seller name (msrush)
>
>
>
>
>
> "Christina Peterson" > wrote in message
> news:<1058145789.574270@prawn>...
> > Mel,
> >
> > Can you sell things on Telegraph?
> >
> > Within a couple block of Sooz, on MLKJ, there used to be a couple bead
> > stores. One the corner they sold stones, but it been gon a little
while.
> > Is the bead store still there, on the side of the street toward the Bay.
It
> > was called Zwinbayu or something odd like that.
> >
> > Tina
> >
> >
> > "Melx2" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > Hi guys, I know I don't post to often, but when I've needed you all,
> > > you've been there. Just a lttile update. First I've been fighting
> > > with my landlord about utility bills from when I first moved in and he
> > > didn't put in a request for dissconnect, and I refused to pay them
> > > unless I had hard copies of the bill. On top of that last week I put
> > > my husband out, becusae he hit me in front of my 4yr old son. So, of
> > > course the money is funny and the landlord is breathing down my neck,
> > > with no childcare I can't even take a pt job to try and pick-up the
> > > slack. My god what do I do to get throught this. I want to just cry,
> > > there has to be a light a the end of this tunnel. ~~~HELP in the
> > > DARK~~~

Christina Peterson
July 15th 03, 07:25 AM
PS Do you have anything up on Just Beads now?

Tina


"Melx2" > wrote in message
om...
> Goood Morning, sorry that it so long to reply, but I just got the
> chance to read all the threads. Yes, and no about the drain issue.
> Once I'm out of the whole then I'll be able to support myself fine.
> I'm just not the type of person to wallow in self pitty. Needed
> support and other opinions to help make my final decisions. As for
> him bothering me, it is un-nerving and inferiorating, but I
> continously file police reports and Will press the DA's office to
> press charges and issue warrants. I will be vigulant about this one.
> The divorce is on the way, I can't take any more and my sanity is more
> important. I will be posting some items for sale on Justbeads.com
> over the next few days. To try and earn more money. I have checked
> the agencies about helping with rent and of course I earn just a
> little bit to much money for them to consider helping me. Time will
> heal all and I will learn and grow from this mistake. God Bless and
> stop making me cry, I'm not suppose to be all sensative and smushie.
> Love Melx2
> Justbeads seller name (msrush)
>
>
>
>
>
> "Christina Peterson" > wrote in message
> news:<1058145789.574270@prawn>...
> > Mel,
> >
> > Can you sell things on Telegraph?
> >
> > Within a couple block of Sooz, on MLKJ, there used to be a couple bead
> > stores. One the corner they sold stones, but it been gon a little
while.
> > Is the bead store still there, on the side of the street toward the Bay.
It
> > was called Zwinbayu or something odd like that.
> >
> > Tina
> >
> >
> > "Melx2" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > Hi guys, I know I don't post to often, but when I've needed you all,
> > > you've been there. Just a lttile update. First I've been fighting
> > > with my landlord about utility bills from when I first moved in and he
> > > didn't put in a request for dissconnect, and I refused to pay them
> > > unless I had hard copies of the bill. On top of that last week I put
> > > my husband out, becusae he hit me in front of my 4yr old son. So, of
> > > course the money is funny and the landlord is breathing down my neck,
> > > with no childcare I can't even take a pt job to try and pick-up the
> > > slack. My god what do I do to get throught this. I want to just cry,
> > > there has to be a light a the end of this tunnel. ~~~HELP in the
> > > DARK~~~

Kandice Seeber
July 15th 03, 08:20 AM
Yes, but I don't want to add to Sooz's stress. If Sooz wants things sent to
her, I am all for it, but if she doesn't want to right now, I can handle the
shipping, and I soooooo don't mind at all. :) Whatever everyone thinks is
best!

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net
"Christina Peterson" > wrote in message
news:1058243389.128137@prawn...
> You know, Kandice, if we sent things to Sooz, Melissa could just pick
things
> up there.
>
> Tina
>
>
> "Christina Peterson" > wrote in message
> news:1058167394.728246@prawn...
> > Great. I think I'll add something for rent too.
> >
> > Tina
> >
> >
> > "Kandice Seeber" > wrote in message
> > news:TksQa.56698$N7.7195@sccrnsc03...
> > > I'd be happy to do it! Send everything to me. :) Better yet - email
> me
> > if
> > > you'd like to participate - I will gather up a list and send out some
> > info.
> > > Hehehehe watch out Mel!!!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kandice Seeber
> > > Air & Earth Designs
> > > http://www.lampwork.net
> > > "Dr. Sooz" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > >PS. Hey Sooz, are you up to organizing a BFGR, Beads For Good
> Reason?
> > > >
> > > > Others may have to take over for me if there is a BFGR, though I am
> > > totally
> > > > behind the project. Mel needs just a boost to keep from going
under.
> I
> > > had
> > > > what I think was a gall bladder attack last night while Kevin and I
> were
> > > coming
> > > > home from dinner on the bus. I could hardly walk. I slept all day
> > today.
> > > I
> > > > am going to bed NOW.
> > > > ~~
> > > > Sooz
> > > > -------
> > > > ESBC
> > > > Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
> > > > http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
> > > > One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly
> > making
> > > > exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Melx2
July 15th 03, 05:11 PM
I couldn't sleep last night until about an hour before I hadto be at
Sooz's, but late this afternoon I will have a few Items up. I just
need to nap first. Love you all Melx2
Can always email pics if you need to see what I have sooner.



(Dr. Sooz) wrote in message >...
> Haw haw haw! I know. :-)
>
> >I'm sorry! I was speaking from a general, corporate point of view. When
> >I've employed people privately, I always paid all I could, because their
> >labor made mine possible.
> >
> >I'm delighted that Mel's a goddess and that you love her mad skilz. I won't
> >give any more job hunting advice. (Mel, don't read my post, or if you did -
> >don't listen to me. Be like my kids)
> >
> >Kathy N-V
>
>
> ~~
> Sooz
> -------
> ESBC
> Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
> http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
> One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making
> exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne

Dr. Sooz
July 15th 03, 08:21 PM
>You know, Kandice, if we sent things to Sooz, Melissa could just pick things
>up there.

Right. Mel's here 6 days a week, and sleeps over often in her room (we have a
bedroom just for her! --though Tina's slept there too) :-D
~~
Sooz
-------
ESBC
Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making
exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne

Dr. Sooz
July 15th 03, 08:23 PM
Aw shucks.

>And you do it so well!


~~
Sooz
-------
ESBC
Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making
exciting discoveries. ~ A. A. Milne

Kalera Stratton
July 16th 03, 04:45 PM
In article >,
(Melx2) wrote:

> Goood Morning, sorry that it so long to reply, but I just got the
> chance to read all the threads. Yes, and no about the drain issue.
> Once I'm out of the whole then I'll be able to support myself fine.
> I'm just not the type of person to wallow in self pitty. Needed
> support and other opinions to help make my final decisions. As for
> him bothering me, it is un-nerving and inferiorating, but I
> continously file police reports and Will press the DA's office to
> press charges and issue warrants. I will be vigulant about this one.
> The divorce is on the way, I can't take any more and my sanity is more
> important. I will be posting some items for sale on Justbeads.com
> over the next few days. To try and earn more money. I have checked
> the agencies about helping with rent and of course I earn just a
> little bit to much money for them to consider helping me. Time will
> heal all and I will learn and grow from this mistake. God Bless and
> stop making me cry, I'm not suppose to be all sensative and smushie.
> Love Melx2
> Justbeads seller name (msrush)

When you come out of this, you are going to feel so strong and so
accomplished! You will have overcome, and you will have so much
self-assurance about the power and competence you have within. Whenever
you start to feel overwhelmed or start to doubt yourself, just remind
yourself of this: you are a strong woman, and you will come through in
the end.

--
-Kalera
Mom of Juliet, 5, Sam, 3, and Ophelia, born 5/31/03
Wife of the incomparable Moxley of www.spaceplex.com
See us at www.strattonhome.org

KDK
July 17th 03, 01:08 AM
Positive energy to you- and of course hugs!!!!!!

Be proud for standing up for yourself!!!

Kathy K

"Melx2" > wrote in message
om...
> Goood Morning, sorry that it so long to reply, but I just got the
> chance to read all the threads. Yes, and no about the drain issue.
> Once I'm out of the whole then I'll be able to support myself fine.
> I'm just not the type of person to wallow in self pitty. Needed
> support and other opinions to help make my final decisions. As for
> him bothering me, it is un-nerving and inferiorating, but I
> continously file police reports and Will press the DA's office to
> press charges and issue warrants. I will be vigulant about this one.
> The divorce is on the way, I can't take any more and my sanity is more
> important. I will be posting some items for sale on Justbeads.com
> over the next few days. To try and earn more money. I have checked
> the agencies about helping with rent and of course I earn just a
> little bit to much money for them to consider helping me. Time will
> heal all and I will learn and grow from this mistake. God Bless and
> stop making me cry, I'm not suppose to be all sensative and smushie.
> Love Melx2
> Justbeads seller name (msrush)
>
>
>
>
>
> "Christina Peterson" > wrote in message
> news:<1058145789.574270@prawn>...
> > Mel,
> >
> > Can you sell things on Telegraph?
> >
> > Within a couple block of Sooz, on MLKJ, there used to be a couple bead
> > stores. One the corner they sold stones, but it been gon a little
while.
> > Is the bead store still there, on the side of the street toward the Bay.
It
> > was called Zwinbayu or something odd like that.
> >
> > Tina
> >
> >
> > "Melx2" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > Hi guys, I know I don't post to often, but when I've needed you all,
> > > you've been there. Just a lttile update. First I've been fighting
> > > with my landlord about utility bills from when I first moved in and he
> > > didn't put in a request for dissconnect, and I refused to pay them
> > > unless I had hard copies of the bill. On top of that last week I put
> > > my husband out, becusae he hit me in front of my 4yr old son. So, of
> > > course the money is funny and the landlord is breathing down my neck,
> > > with no childcare I can't even take a pt job to try and pick-up the
> > > slack. My god what do I do to get throught this. I want to just cry,
> > > there has to be a light a the end of this tunnel. ~~~HELP in the
> > > DARK~~~

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