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littlewings67
April 5th 04, 09:44 PM
Hi There,
Is there anyone, that could help me please!!!! I started a pair of socks
today, and after 5 attempts, i still cant get it right:
The pattern says to ssk, k2tog
Is the ssk a decrease stitch?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Sue (UK)

Dianne Lewandowski
April 5th 04, 10:08 PM
Your directions should have a section that tells you what the initials
stand for. SSK could be
slip, slip, knit

That's not a decrease. This is a decrease:
s k pass

That's slip, knit, pass slipped stitch over the stitch just knitted.
You've just decreased one stitch.

Dianne - who has never knit socks, but has been tempted. :-)



littlewings67 wrote:

> Hi There,
> Is there anyone, that could help me please!!!! I started a pair of socks
> today, and after 5 attempts, i still cant get it right:
> The pattern says to ssk, k2tog
> Is the ssk a decrease stitch?
> Any help would be much appreciated.
> Sue (UK)
>
>

Lucille
April 5th 04, 10:13 PM
slip, slip knit is a decrease. It means to slip the stitches from the left
hand needle on to the right hand needle one at a time then knit them
together.
Lucille

"Dianne Lewandowski" > wrote in message
...
> Your directions should have a section that tells you what the initials
> stand for. SSK could be
> slip, slip, knit
>
> That's not a decrease. This is a decrease:
> s k pass
>
> That's slip, knit, pass slipped stitch over the stitch just knitted.
> You've just decreased one stitch.
>
> Dianne - who has never knit socks, but has been tempted. :-)
>
>
>
> littlewings67 wrote:
>
> > Hi There,
> > Is there anyone, that could help me please!!!! I started a pair of socks
> > today, and after 5 attempts, i still cant get it right:
> > The pattern says to ssk, k2tog
> > Is the ssk a decrease stitch?
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> > Sue (UK)
> >
> >
>

littlewings67
April 5th 04, 10:16 PM
Thank you Lucille,
I'll go and try that, i did post to the wrong group, could have sworn i
clicked on the Yarn group.
Many thanks
Sue (UK)

"Lucille" > wrote in message
...
> slip, slip knit is a decrease. It means to slip the stitches from the
left
> hand needle on to the right hand needle one at a time then knit them
> together.
> Lucille
>
> "Dianne Lewandowski" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Your directions should have a section that tells you what the initials
> > stand for. SSK could be
> > slip, slip, knit
> >
> > That's not a decrease. This is a decrease:
> > s k pass
> >
> > That's slip, knit, pass slipped stitch over the stitch just knitted.
> > You've just decreased one stitch.
> >
> > Dianne - who has never knit socks, but has been tempted. :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > littlewings67 wrote:
> >
> > > Hi There,
> > > Is there anyone, that could help me please!!!! I started a pair of
socks
> > > today, and after 5 attempts, i still cant get it right:
> > > The pattern says to ssk, k2tog
> > > Is the ssk a decrease stitch?
> > > Any help would be much appreciated.
> > > Sue (UK)
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

Lucille
April 5th 04, 10:18 PM
Here's a better explanation of ssk---------------
ssk (slip, slip knit) Slip next 2 sts as if to knit, one at a time, to right
needle; insert left needle into fronts of these 2 sts and k them tog.

Lucille

"Lucille" > wrote in message
...
> slip, slip knit is a decrease. It means to slip the stitches from the
left
> hand needle on to the right hand needle one at a time then knit them
> together.
> Lucille
>
> "Dianne Lewandowski" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Your directions should have a section that tells you what the initials
> > stand for. SSK could be
> > slip, slip, knit
> >
> > That's not a decrease. This is a decrease:
> > s k pass
> >
> > That's slip, knit, pass slipped stitch over the stitch just knitted.
> > You've just decreased one stitch.
> >
> > Dianne - who has never knit socks, but has been tempted. :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > littlewings67 wrote:
> >
> > > Hi There,
> > > Is there anyone, that could help me please!!!! I started a pair of
socks
> > > today, and after 5 attempts, i still cant get it right:
> > > The pattern says to ssk, k2tog
> > > Is the ssk a decrease stitch?
> > > Any help would be much appreciated.
> > > Sue (UK)
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

Pat P
April 5th 04, 10:27 PM
It means Slip Stitch Knitwise. In other words take the stitch as if you
were going to KNIT it (as opposed to PURL it) and just slip it onto the
working needle without taking any wool through.

Pat P

"littlewings67" > wrote in message
...
> Hi There,
> Is there anyone, that could help me please!!!! I started a pair of socks
> today, and after 5 attempts, i still cant get it right:
> The pattern says to ssk, k2tog
> Is the ssk a decrease stitch?
> Any help would be much appreciated.
> Sue (UK)
>
>

Pat P
April 5th 04, 10:29 PM
Sorry Dianne, but Pass slipped stitch over is abbreviated to PSSO and she
doesn`t mention that.

Pat P

"Dianne Lewandowski" > wrote in message
...
> Your directions should have a section that tells you what the initials
> stand for. SSK could be
> slip, slip, knit
>
> That's not a decrease. This is a decrease:
> s k pass
>
> That's slip, knit, pass slipped stitch over the stitch just knitted.
> You've just decreased one stitch.
>
> Dianne - who has never knit socks, but has been tempted. :-)
>
>
>
> littlewings67 wrote:
>
> > Hi There,
> > Is there anyone, that could help me please!!!! I started a pair of socks
> > today, and after 5 attempts, i still cant get it right:
> > The pattern says to ssk, k2tog
> > Is the ssk a decrease stitch?
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> > Sue (UK)
> >
> >
>

littlewings67
April 5th 04, 11:30 PM
Hi Pat,
Sorry my explanation was a bit confusing, heres a link to the socks:
http://www.knitty.com/ISSUEsummer03/PATTbroadripple.html
the problem i was getting was after i'd done the first round on the Garter
Ripple Stitch, i was getting extra stitches at the end of the round.
After doing a search on the internet for abbreviations, the only one i came
up with for SSK, is Slip Stitch Knitwise.
This abbreviation is new to me, as all the patterns i use say Slip1, or
PSSO.
Perhaps its just me, and i'm out of touch with the abbreviations.
Thank You everyone, for you input ( i need a drink!!!!!)
Sue (UK)

"Pat P" > wrote in message
...
> Sorry Dianne, but Pass slipped stitch over is abbreviated to PSSO and she
> doesn`t mention that.
>
> Pat P
>
> "Dianne Lewandowski" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Your directions should have a section that tells you what the initials
> > stand for. SSK could be
> > slip, slip, knit
> >
> > That's not a decrease. This is a decrease:
> > s k pass
> >
> > That's slip, knit, pass slipped stitch over the stitch just knitted.
> > You've just decreased one stitch.
> >
> > Dianne - who has never knit socks, but has been tempted. :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > littlewings67 wrote:
> >
> > > Hi There,
> > > Is there anyone, that could help me please!!!! I started a pair of
socks
> > > today, and after 5 attempts, i still cant get it right:
> > > The pattern says to ssk, k2tog
> > > Is the ssk a decrease stitch?
> > > Any help would be much appreciated.
> > > Sue (UK)
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

Caryn
April 6th 04, 12:07 AM
>
>slip, slip knit is a decrease. It means to slip the stitches from the left
>hand needle on to the right hand needle one at a time then knit them
>together.
>Lucille

Lucille has it right!

You can shape a garment by using a mix of ssk and k2tog to give decrease
stitches different tilts.

Having them tilt all the same way as a raglan sweater shoulder seam looks
especially nice.

Caryn
Blue Wizard Designs
http://hometown.aol.com/crzy4xst/index.html
Updated: 7/7/03 -- now available Dragon of the Stars
View WIPs at: http://community.webshots.com/user/carynlws (Caryn's UFO's)

Dianne Lewandowski
April 6th 04, 12:17 AM
I've had directions that say to slip, slip, knit but that doesn't mean
to slip, slip, then knit them together. I forget why you slip some
stitches and don't knit them. Been awhile.

I've seen directions: s2, kstog
You probably knit more than me. In any event, there ought to be *some*
directions which explains that abbreviation.

Dianne

Lucille wrote:

> slip, slip knit is a decrease. It means to slip the stitches from the left
> hand needle on to the right hand needle one at a time then knit them
> together.
> Lucille
>
> "Dianne Lewandowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Your directions should have a section that tells you what the initials
>>stand for. SSK could be
>>slip, slip, knit
>>
>>That's not a decrease. This is a decrease:
>>s k pass
>>
>>That's slip, knit, pass slipped stitch over the stitch just knitted.
>>You've just decreased one stitch.
>>
>>Dianne - who has never knit socks, but has been tempted. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>littlewings67 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi There,
>>>Is there anyone, that could help me please!!!! I started a pair of socks
>>>today, and after 5 attempts, i still cant get it right:
>>>The pattern says to ssk, k2tog
>>>Is the ssk a decrease stitch?
>>>Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>Sue (UK)
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Dianne Lewandowski
April 6th 04, 12:26 AM
Aha. But that's not a decrease.

You're right about the PSSO. I don't even "see" that term anymore. I
think "pass" and know what it means, so forgot. I think differently, and
frequently rewrite directions in my own shorthand.

I don't think I've ever run across "ssk". I went to look at Sue's
directions at the URL she posted. I'dve been lost doing those and
probably come here with a question about the same thing. I have had
patterns that have called for slipping either purlwise or knitwise, but
I shore nuff don't remember them termed like that. Next time I knit
something, I'm gonna look for it.

I forgot what the slipping over does to the pattern. It's not a hole.

Dianne

Pat P wrote:

> It means Slip Stitch Knitwise. In other words take the stitch as if you
> were going to KNIT it (as opposed to PURL it) and just slip it onto the
> working needle without taking any wool through.
>
> Pat P
>
> "littlewings67" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Hi There,
>>Is there anyone, that could help me please!!!! I started a pair of socks
>>today, and after 5 attempts, i still cant get it right:
>>The pattern says to ssk, k2tog
>>Is the ssk a decrease stitch?
>>Any help would be much appreciated.
>>Sue (UK)
>>
>>
>
>
>

Ruthie
April 6th 04, 01:25 AM
Pat! You need to update your knowledge of knitting acronyms.

"ssk" is (as a previous poster said) "slip, slip, knit (the slipped
stitches together);

"skp" is slip one, knit one, PSSO.

And, some pattern writers assume you know all that, just like some
embroidery patterns do...

By the way, Sue, the best way I know of to do SSK is:
slip one as if to purl, slip one as if to knit, put the left needle
through the front of the two slipped stitches, and knit them together
through the back loop.

Advice I learned from the wonderful Socknitters List at Yahoo Groups.
Socks is all I have knitted for 3 years! Nothing in the world like hand
knit sox!

SSK followed by K2tog gives you a left-leaning and a right-leaning
decrease, so the double decrease looks balanced.

Ruthie in CO, with happy feet
alowan atty earthlink dotty net

Lucille
April 6th 04, 01:31 AM
When it tells you to just slip a stitch and not knit it that's so you can
carry the stitch to the next line and cover two lines instead of one (or
sometimes even more than 2.) I've been knitting since I'm 8 years old, and
have almost always done very complicated stuff, so this comes to me as
second nature.

As a matter of fact, if we got together, with my knowledge of knitting and
your knowledge of needlework, we would make quite a formidable team.

Lucille

"Dianne Lewandowski" > wrote in message
...
> I've had directions that say to slip, slip, knit but that doesn't mean
> to slip, slip, then knit them together. I forget why you slip some
> stitches and don't knit them. Been awhile.
>
> I've seen directions: s2, kstog
> You probably knit more than me. In any event, there ought to be *some*
> directions which explains that abbreviation.
>
> Dianne
>
> Lucille wrote:
>
> > slip, slip knit is a decrease. It means to slip the stitches from the
left
> > hand needle on to the right hand needle one at a time then knit them
> > together.
> > Lucille
> >
> > "Dianne Lewandowski" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Your directions should have a section that tells you what the initials
> >>stand for. SSK could be
> >>slip, slip, knit
> >>
> >>That's not a decrease. This is a decrease:
> >>s k pass
> >>
> >>That's slip, knit, pass slipped stitch over the stitch just knitted.
> >>You've just decreased one stitch.
> >>
> >>Dianne - who has never knit socks, but has been tempted. :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>littlewings67 wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi There,
> >>>Is there anyone, that could help me please!!!! I started a pair of
socks
> >>>today, and after 5 attempts, i still cant get it right:
> >>>The pattern says to ssk, k2tog
> >>>Is the ssk a decrease stitch?
> >>>Any help would be much appreciated.
> >>>Sue (UK)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>

Lucille
April 6th 04, 01:33 AM
No hole, just a decrease with the top of the stitch facing left.
Lucille

"Dianne Lewandowski" > wrote in message
...
> Aha. But that's not a decrease.
>
> You're right about the PSSO. I don't even "see" that term anymore. I
> think "pass" and know what it means, so forgot. I think differently, and
> frequently rewrite directions in my own shorthand.
>
> I don't think I've ever run across "ssk". I went to look at Sue's
> directions at the URL she posted. I'dve been lost doing those and
> probably come here with a question about the same thing. I have had
> patterns that have called for slipping either purlwise or knitwise, but
> I shore nuff don't remember them termed like that. Next time I knit
> something, I'm gonna look for it.
>
> I forgot what the slipping over does to the pattern. It's not a hole.
>
> Dianne
>
> Pat P wrote:
>
> > It means Slip Stitch Knitwise. In other words take the stitch as if you
> > were going to KNIT it (as opposed to PURL it) and just slip it onto the
> > working needle without taking any wool through.
> >
> > Pat P
> >
> > "littlewings67" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Hi There,
> >>Is there anyone, that could help me please!!!! I started a pair of socks
> >>today, and after 5 attempts, i still cant get it right:
> >>The pattern says to ssk, k2tog
> >>Is the ssk a decrease stitch?
> >>Any help would be much appreciated.
> >>Sue (UK)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

Boohoo1971
April 6th 04, 04:50 AM
<< Is there anyone, that could help me please!!!! I started a pair of socks
today, and after 5 attempts, i still cant get it right:
The pattern says to ssk, k2tog
Is the ssk a decrease stitch?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Sue (UK)
>><BR><BR>
k2tog is a decrease stitch and generally used after the heel has been
turned...in doing this stitch you just put the needle into two stitches and
then throw the yarn over...you have knit the two stitches together so you now
have one stitch where two were. Boo

littlewings67
April 6th 04, 08:43 AM
A big Thank You To Everyone for their info.
I've finally managed to have knit half way down the leg, and the pattern
looks right, even got the right number of stitches on each needle, this is
now how i read the pattern:

*k2, YO=YFWD (in my language), k3, SSK=s1k1psso, k2tog, k3, YO, k2*

SSk as to be a decrease, to make up the stitches for the YO either side, as
long as it looks right, and the stitches are right, i'm happy.
Many Thanks
Sue (UK) (going back to lurking mode, happy!!!!!)

"Tara D" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 22:27:53 +0100, "Pat P"
> > wrote:
>
> >It means Slip Stitch Knitwise. In other words take the stitch as if you
> >were going to KNIT it (as opposed to PURL it) and just slip it onto the
> >working needle without taking any wool through.
>
> While I won't disagree with you, I went and parsed the pattern. The
> SSK is a decrease (or at least should be based on the pattern).
> Opposite side to the K2tog. Maybe it's missing the PSSO part (or the
> person who the directions assumes it's common knowledge). The slip
> stitches are referred to as simply S1.
>
> Tara

Jan Lennie
April 6th 04, 10:12 AM
From this useful site
http://www.socknitters.com/Tips/knitabbr.htm
ssk - Slip, Slip, Knit - slip one stitch as if to knit, slip another stitch
as if to knit, stick point of left needle in two slipped stitches in front
of the right needle and knit. This is a decrease similar to psso.
Jan
"Ruthie" > wrote in message
link.net...
> Pat! You need to update your knowledge of knitting acronyms.
>
> "ssk" is (as a previous poster said) "slip, slip, knit (the slipped
> stitches together);
>
> "skp" is slip one, knit one, PSSO.
>
> And, some pattern writers assume you know all that, just like some
> embroidery patterns do...
>
> By the way, Sue, the best way I know of to do SSK is:
> slip one as if to purl, slip one as if to knit, put the left needle
> through the front of the two slipped stitches, and knit them together
> through the back loop.
>
> Advice I learned from the wonderful Socknitters List at Yahoo Groups.
> Socks is all I have knitted for 3 years! Nothing in the world like hand
> knit sox!
>
> SSK followed by K2tog gives you a left-leaning and a right-leaning
> decrease, so the double decrease looks balanced.
>
> Ruthie in CO, with happy feet
> alowan atty earthlink dotty net
>

Dianne Lewandowski
April 6th 04, 02:33 PM
Lucille wrote:
> As a matter of fact, if we got together, with my knowledge of knitting and
> your knowledge of needlework, we would make quite a formidable team.

Good. You knit something and make your own pattern, I'll embroider part
of it, and we'll publish it. :-)

There is a lace knit pattern in Dillmont's book (large tablecloth). I
was intrigued with the edging. After many attempts, realized the
pattern was wrong, so fixed it.

But I've never gotten more than 3 inches. It is so complicated that I
can't remember the pattern well enough. And so many "holes" that I get
lost after several rows . . . can't work out the mistakes. I know I
could finally do it (repair mistakes) if I could ever get far enough
along to get the actual pattern in my head. :-)

Dianne

Val Mathison
April 9th 04, 10:48 AM
>Hi There,
>Is there anyone, that could help me please!!!! I started a pair of socks
>today, and after 5 attempts, i still cant get it right:
>The pattern says to ssk, k2tog
>Is the ssk a decrease stitch?
>Any help would be much appreciated.
>Sue (UK)

Hi Sue

It's hard to know without seeing the pattern. but here in the UK that would
usually mean "slip stitch knitways" as opposed to SSP which is "slip stitch
purlways".

It should tell you in the abbreviations section. If not, can you see whether
you should have less stitches at the end of the row? With a SSK it doesn't
decrease the number of stitches.

Val, Shropshire

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